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Trump says U.S. will 'get Greenland,' military force may not be needed but not ruled out
(eu.usatoday.com)
this post was submitted on 30 Mar 2025
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Wouldnt this take an act from the house, he cant just declare war with out a 3/4th majority. My USA law is rough but I thought presidential powers only allowed for actions in retaliation but starting shit took the whole of the nations law makers.
While it does take an act of congress to declare a war, the US has deployed troops, at the direction of the president, in all sorts of engagements for decades without declaring war. The last time Congress declared war was WW2. Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, and so much more were directed by the president.
Each of those you mentioned, except Korea, included Congress approval. Vietnam was approved by Congress with the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution (1964). Iraq was approved with the Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution (2002). Afghanistan was approved by the Congress Joint Resolution (2001). I suppose it's the fine line between "military force" and "war".
But I thought if there was no reason (I.E. greenland isnt doing shit) does the pres still get authority to start a territory takeover (also I thought all states or commonwelths had to vote to enter into the USA).
The US has a track record of manufactured reasons to invade a country. Look for some incident in the near future which the US blames on Greenland.
It would still take the house to back it no? Unless they have like look Greenland is blowing up our ships and then everyone would know it for the sham it is, and I would assume if not NATO but EURO would back Greenland in its defense.
They could stop it, but they are not only happily doing nothing, but actively giving up their own power.
Also worth reading https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/02/11/column-congress-war-powers-depetris/
I mean, that's what this and every time you see a conservative on TV talking about Greenland are doing, they're greasing the wheels before the proverbial weapons of mass destruction card gets played.
They don’t have to define it as a war. Previous administrations have opened the route of not declaring war but still engaging in boots on the ground assaults. The precedent has been set, long before he entered office, and reinforced by every modern president.
There are no rules anymore.
Yes, the executive branch under MAGA control will abide by rules and norms, obey the law, respect institutions, and heed court rulings. Checks and balances are holding strong!
We are safe from Fascism, so don’t worry!
No I dont think that but they would have to show their hand and the sheep wouldnt have a leg to stand on but just say hey we are ganna go ahead and do a hitler.
While that's true, they don't care. At this point, MAGA types openly don't care about consistency, don't care that they're doing a Hitler, don't care that they're shredding the constitution, and these Scooby-Doo ass moments of yoinking the mask off and saying "a ha, so you WERE Hitler all along!" don't matter one bit. What matters is consequences, and so far, there have been none.
I recall Prez can deploy troops for up to 100 days or some bs. I remember my elementary teacher saying its rare congress wouldn't extend operation.
I get some of that, but isnt that is response, I didnt think they had the right to start war with another country that was peaceful to them
Pretty sure this what I was thinking of.
WOW, they can just commit to war and they have to show no reason at all. That needs to be changed.
Yeah thought it was bs as a small child.