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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do you think Trump, Musk and their oligarch insider friends maybe, just maybe, opened short positions on a bunch of stock ahead of the new tariff announcement?

[–] MystikIncarnate 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is my thought exactly.

I watched Steven Colbert yesterday saying that this large of a fuck up is proof there is no deep state. While I get his point, I disagree. If there is someone in the shadows pulling strings this was the intended outcome.

It's pretty well known that in trading markets, there's almost always something that goes up when everything else drops like a rock. Even as such, moving money to be liquid right before a steep drop off, then buying up all the formerly high-value stocks at bargain basement pricing, and just waiting for the rebound, is a legit strategy. Having foreknowledge of such an action is considered insider trading however. Realistically, insider trading is difficult to prove unless the perpetrator is an idiot.

Whether you call it the deep state or the 1% or oligarchs, or simply "rich assholes", if you believe there is a group orchestrating things, then you beat believe this was the intended outcome.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Nothing needs to go up. Shorting stocks lets you make money off of them when they go down. If a person or group of people can cause a crash and know in advance what day it's happening, they can borrow stocks and then buy the stock to repay the loan at a lower price and pocket the change.

[–] MystikIncarnate 1 points 22 hours ago

That is also an option.

Honestly there's a lot of ways to make money in the market if you know what's going to happen in the coming days that will affect it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Isn’t the value of short position rising?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Stocks go down because cash goes up