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[–] [email protected] 139 points 3 days ago (6 children)

reminder: if you have anything saved with google, you should probably move it to somewhere that's not tied to the US govt. mark my words: it's just a matter of time before they weaponize Google.

[–] a9249 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I have a ton of pinned map points for both my work and travel all over the world from the last decade or so... does anyone know of a way to export these from google in a format that will easily plug into openmaps or some other app? There are thousands and manually doing this is not really an option...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't know about being easy to plug in, but Google Takeout lets you request an order of all data they have tied to your account across all services, in compliance with EU rules.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

I'm not sure what the google maps export looks like, but no matter how it's formatted I'm sure that a simple Python script will be able to transfer the map markers over to openmaps. I'll look into making this if it doesn't already exist on GitHub. I'd like to transfer my stuff over too.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I've been putting off reflashing my custom rom without gapps... I have the necessary self hosted infrastructure in place where I wouldn't need Google. I just needed the extra push.

Thanks for the push.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Yes. Backup everything and move away.

I've started using Qwant as my search engine and it's not bad at all

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

that's awesome! this is the first time in decades that i've even heard the name of a search alternative. i'm from the hotbot days. do you know if or how much it's rooted in google's search? i know that's wording it poorly, but i hope you still know what i'm asking

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Qwant uses Bing search results AFAIK.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

But they're working to create an independent and European search index together with Ecosia.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Might as well use a SearX instance.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

I heard they are working on their own search engine

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

jesus fucking christ

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ecosia for me. I still find myself asking Google for stock prices and such, but other than that it's ok. Berlin based apparently, plus I like that they plant trees for every search you do. I don't like that they have sponsored links at the top but I suppose that's how it goes.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Don’t they also use Bing search in the background?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Bing and / or Google (you can choose).

But their working together with QWANT on their own search engine.

And from a privacy perspective I’d argue, that it’s still better to use Ecosia / QWANT.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Not sure, I have to look into it more. When I switched last year, it was just because I liked the green initiative. It wasn't really that serious for me beyond that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Thanks, I've switched as well.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why dont you think its weaponized yet? Thats crazy

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

you're ahead of the class, my friend. sometimes one must remove the tinfoil hat before addressing the crowd.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This applies to Apple as well.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

And Microsoft.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (6 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Tuta.com

European, not Swiss, privacy-focused.

[–] kooks_only 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Was just going to say “host your own on AWS” and then remembered who owns aws.

Might have to literally host my own now.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Good luck. I've heard that it's almost impossible to host your own email now because companies like Google will blacklist it and send all your emails to your recipient's trash instead of their inbox.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Residential IPs are generally gray listed. Same with any cloud provider IP pools. You can get a mail relay for sending email if you want an easy way. Or find a local colo who has their own IP block where you can host a small server. It might take a little time to warm up and build that reputation, but not impossible.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

i've switched over to proton for now. that's not advice, though. look them up before you decide to try them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm very happy with proton's service and products (email/calender/drive) so even with the asshole CEO it still feels like good choice. Maybe not as good as some other options out there, most likely would have chosen Tuta if I would switch now.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

ugh, this is exhausting. what's asshole about this CEO?

edit - https://techstory.in/proton-mail-faces-backlash-over-claims-of-political-neutrality-amid-ceos-praise-for-republican-party/

any other alternatives that aren't pretty much guaranteed to turn reich? edit - yeah, that last sentence i didn't read. thanks.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Posteo.net is a buck a month

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Not an email provider but I've been using addy.io (https://addy.io/) for a few weeks now and I feel it deserves a shout out. They let you use email aliases to protect your real email. There is a good free option which I use.

I had been using DuckDuckGo's version (https://duckduckgo.com/email/) but they require you to use their browser on mobile or their extension on desktop. Also free.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

I use fastmail. I have used it for couple of years now and it has been working well. It was a calendar, notes and file functions too. Tried proton. The app was always slow to open and refresh. It is also easier for people to understand fastmail.com when you are giving them your email.