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And police unions will defend the cop. Unions are not our friend no matter how much some folks on here will want to claim otherwise. Unions make it difficult to reprimand and fire incompetent employees.
Police Unions are not our friends. I don't remember my local pipe-fitter's union trying to shield a plumber who killed someone for not playing simon-says correctly.
Police have been used for unionbusting for as long as there have been unions and police. Except police unions of course.
Many of the aspects of the modern workplace that make them look better than sweatshops of old, and which most people take for granted, are present only because unions literally fought for those things in the past.
If you work at a job in modern America, you are benefiting from union pressure on business. Edit - Here's five of those things.
Police union aka criminal gang.
@winterayars @be_excellent_to_each_other
Always have been since their inception.
ACAB
Just because you don't understand that unions - ALL unions - shield incompetent workers doesn't mean it isn't the reality. That clueless pipe fitter you hired to do some work and then fucked up your pipes or charged your 2x as much as the job should have cost is just one of the many issues with incompetent union workers who can't be fired.
Source: Trust me bro.
Hope you enjoy losing your weekends and sick time. Because those will be the first things to go if unions are eliminated. They're what made them possible in the first place.
Corrupt, unaccountable Police Unions, propped up by the rich and powerful, don't get to claim and sully the entire unionisation movement. Obviously.
Many of them don't even call themselves unions, it's like they know better. PBA is one example used widely, but I believe there are many others.
"Police Benevolent Association" is such an ironically sinister sounding name... where was marketing?
From Wikipedia:
They get to give people cards that tell the police to be nicer to those citizens and let them off the hook...? The fuck?
There's been a LOT of controversy about those cards.
Here's a recent article where to my surprise a cop calls them out for exactly what they are. They'll be drumming him out soon enough I'm sure. https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/nypd-officer-cites-courtesy-cards-friends-family-cops-99709978
American law enforcement really is just a bad joke...
NOT. THE. SAME.
Your union does the exact same thing as police unions. Keep incompetent employees on the job. It just so happens that the stakes tend to be a lot higher with cops.
No other union keeps people on the job when they kill people. Not even Jimmy Hoffa could get that put in a contract.
Just because the stakes are higher with cops, doesn't mean other unions don't pull the same shit - keeping lazy workers employed who otherwise should have been fired.
@Hazdaz @Ragnell
Keeping on someone who's being lazy is in no way, shape or form the same as retaining a murderer.
If you think keeping incompetent people around on a construction site isn't dangerous - with the potential to hurt or kill someone - then you are deluded. What electricity can kill? Hauling equipment carrying material that could weigh tons? Operating heavy equipment? Noooo... none of that could possibly cause injuries. /s
Good thing trade unions are the ones who require safety training and safety certifications for their members, then.
Damn, you were doing so well in the first half... Well, first sentence.