Inception bitch!
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Don't we still have a few years before lemmy somehow enshittifies?
It's impossible by design. If an instance enshittifies people will just leave the instance.
Isn't that the exact same argument for Twitter? If Twitter gets shitty, people will just leave? Because I feel like we're not really seeing that.
No, not at all, twitter is not decentralized, with a lemmy instance, if you leave, you lose nothing at all. With twitter, you can't take the content or your account
if .world says being a minor is bannable suddenly there's no minors anywhere on Lemmy. A minor example that is understandable, sure, but it's just to show that a single large instance can cause a lot of change if they decide to.
But I don't think that's true at all.
The protocol itself could surely start its journey if enshittification? In which case different, possibly incompatible, branches would spawn fragmenting the Lemmy space. Still miles better than the whole thing burning to the ground. But with no shareholders looming around (yet) we can hope it won't come to that.
I don't see how, it's covered by a good license, and if it did it'd be forked in an instant. Can you give a historical example?
I guess the closest I know of is Maps.me and Organic Maps? Maps.me was open source, but got purchased and enshittified, so Organic Maps was forked from it. And now there is some drama with the Organic Maps shareholders/co-founders, so unless that is (or has it already been?) sorted out we're likely to see another fork of it.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the main dev(s) members of lemmy.ml? So I can certainly see how differing political views could skew the development of the main branch of Lemmy.
The organic maps founders seem to have convinced the volunteers that a private company would be best to manage an open source project. The community got duped hard.
I agree. And luckily for Lemmy and all other FOSS projects the worst that can happen is a fork of the project is created with a potentially fractured community.
That's a bad example because it got forked and it wasn't an actual problem?
People say this all the time but never can give even one example of a potential problem. Preemptive forking sounds insane to me. The notion that lemmy might enshittify because you don't like their politics is also ridiculous when their politics are anti-capitalist... aka the politics that are least likely to enshittify.
But that's exactly what I said in the beginning. The worst that can happen is the original creators take the project in an undesired direction so a fork is created.
Not really. It's not a centralized platform by design - unless you're talking about the flagship instances, which are a common problem with federated projects
It'd be pretty difficult, any instances that start that shit would be defederated with a quickness, but I don't want to be too optimistic lol