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You are vaguely referencing a bunch of stuff and simultaneously being angry I am not being specific enough.
Be specific, what are you claiming Hasan has done illegally or wrongly? You claim he "supports" a "terrorist" organization but the onus is on you to prove in exhaustive and specific terms why I should believe you when you say the words "support" and '"terrorist" that you aren't just moving empty hot air and hate around with your mouth.
Nobody is surprised by this, your behavior makes it crystal clear this is the kind of position you would have.
You're trying to delegitimize what I'm saying by saying I'm emotional and unspecific, and attacking my character. You're purposefully playing dumb to avoid the actual point I'm making. Then you try to move the goalpost by asking what he's done that is illegal or wrong, which is not what I'm talking about.
Here are the direct quotes so there is no mistaking it. Both points were reiterated in the video you linked.
"I think what the houthis are doing is a good thing" -Hasan
"We support you" -Hasan when interviewing a houthi terrorist.
Hasan is a terrorist supporter as evident by the above direct quotes.
As for what I found disgusting was when he excused his claims about the rape allegations being false and saying there was no evidence. Also in the video you linked.
What is your point with this? Are you shaming me for watching the full debate that was supposed to clear everything up on both sides? Also didn't you just link an asmongold-style reaction video to that whole debate?
That's pretty vague. If I said I support what America does, that doesn't necessarily mean I support the worst actions the state has ever taken.
Again, just because a group ends up on a terrorist list doesn't really mean much besides that they're currently unaligned with US interest. The "terrorist" dogma has really lost its bite since the war on terror began.
If the context was "America kidnapped civilians" and someone said "I think what the Americans are doing is a good thing", then yes, that would paint a bad picture. And it was vague at first but after Hasan explained himself in the debate, it became clear that he was excusing the kidnappings.
Do you not think what they did was terrorism? Do you want to explain to the hostages that they were just overreacting and that their kidnappers actually aren't that bad, and it's just some dogma?
I think you are framing the argument in an incomplete perspective. I don't think the context is just that houthis are kidnapping people, moreso that they are standing up to what he believes is western powers projecting power and supplying weapons and resources to a nation commiting genocide. The kidnappings did not occur in a vacuum, and is secondary to their actual objective.
I think terrorism is a word people utilize to stop people from intellectually engaging in a complex problem. I personally don't think it's terrorism, as you described.... it's kidnapping. Which isn't great, but states do terrible things all the time. ICE is currently engaging in kidnapping people off the streets without due process, would you also consider that terrorism?
My whole point is that labeling something as terrorism is mostly used to disuade people from applying nuance to a topic, and it seems that's really your only argument.
It would actually read something more like "US Navy detains cargo crew in violation of blockaid"
I don't think most Americans know just how much they're propagandized, even through mundane things like headline word choices.
Operating a shipping blockaid is a boilerplate armed conflict strategy. No, this doesn't qualify as terrorism IMO.
Do you think Americans are doing a good thing?
Of course, that's what the American TV tells him.