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Honda commits to going out of business by pulling back on EVs as sales rise (electrek.co)

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Good and bad news for me.

Good in that they'll still make and sell parts for my 9th gen si for another 20 years, but I have no idea what to pivot to after I've installed the world's last lower control arm bushing.

Eh, there's always Toyota.

I'm American leftist, so I inherently lack faith in literally everything, so, maybe they'll still be a viable company in the states in 30 years, maybe they'll become Suzuki and only make four wheelers and golf carts. Time will tell.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Check out Aptera. They should start shipping vehicles next year.

Failing that, Rivian is a great EV brand if youu have the money.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm kind of excited about the Telos. I hope that has established itself and has a good reputation by the time I'm ready to replace my Kona.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Yes! I’ve been keeping an eye on them, too. They’re supposed to offer Aptera solar panel options for the MT1. I’m curious what kind of daily range they can get through solar alone. For me, the possibility of solar supported charging is the most exciting part of the next generation of EVs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

I'm drawn to the size. I like my little car but it's always a challenge when doing home projects. Getting an EV that's about the same footprint, fits us and the dogs but also lets me haul like a long bed pickup? Yes, please!

I don't drive much or very far so even the entry level option would be good for me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You need an array of solar panels the size of a house to be able to charge a car significantly. The sun isn't that strong and cars use a lot of energy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

The Aptera design doesn’t run on solar in a real-time sense, but their focus on extreme efficiency right down to aerodynamics means the car can charge as much as 50 miles per day on solar alone. For sunny climates that’s perfect for a commuter vehicle.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

While they aren't in immediate danger Toyota aren't as bulletproof as their best cars are as they have been suffering with persistent sales decline.

They are still committed to passenger car HEVs, which I see as nothing but a dead end now, commercial it may or may not work, but standard passenger cars zero chance.

I get that they want to keep the money making petrol station model going by replacing petrol with hydrogen, and that eventually you will be charging EVs at home with your own renewables for the majority, but its gone, give it up.

With this head in the sand mentality they are asking for the likes of BYD to steal their market share. It will be a slow death, ICE isn't going anywhere for a while now due to various extensions, but going it is.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Suzuki still make cars, they just can't sell them to you

edit: also do they sell M-NV, eNS1 or eNP2 there? They look decent by EV norms