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[–] [email protected] 88 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Maybe unpopular opinion but the winner is objectively better art than second place. Left makes me feel whimsy and mild joy, and right just makes me think “frog.”

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Very clearly a toad. Points deducted.

Edit: so apparently all toads are frogs, but not only that, this is a tomato frog and not a toad at all. My whole life is a lie and shit like this is why I have trust issues.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

I'll just put this here.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Hell yeah! Fuck paraphyletic groups!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

And that's why they didn't win, obviously

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Swear I almost wrote toad but just assumed I was wrong on the frog post.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yep. Some people think skill is art. They don't understand art. Skill is great, but art is something that makes you think or feel. The amount of skill involved doesn't matter, except as something you think or feel, which can also mean less skill is as valuable as more skill.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I'd argue art is a communication medium. You can communicate minimally, or you can communicate with vast detail, both require skill.

Art museums are full of work that says nothing, but passed a few gatekeepers with clout keys or shock value.

Skilled rendering with nothing to say is as unimpressive as deep ideas communicated by random spatter. The viewer isn't getting anything from it, no matter how trendy their turtleneck is.

I take a bit of issue with this idea that "the amount of skill involved doesn't matter", because that's the exact logic used to say artists shouldn't be able to afford a living, or could be replaced by algorithms.

(And yet we easily spot and mock visually exciting Ai renderings for how soulless and empty they are.)

Yes, we've seen impressive high-skill ultra-real pencil renderings that, in the end could sadly be replaced by a photograph, because there was no interpretation involved.

And we've seen awards presented for sticking bananas on walls as a "critique of modern society."

Art is a skill. It's a hard skill, because it's not a solitary pursuit solely anchored in visual perfection. If nobody can understand or appreciate your point, it falls apart.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Na, both are important in Art. I find it totally valid to equal skill with Art and also understand if you disagree on that, but saying that equaling them means you don't "understand" Art is pretty harsh. After all, making you think or feel something is a skill in itself. A super detailed and close to reality picture of a frog makes me think quite a lot about the amount of time and work involved, lets me marvel at the Details and, well, skill of the artist.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago

I meant technical skill, like how well you can create a particular thing with a brush (or whetever tool), but yes the ability to know what creates feeling is also a skill. Technical skill can be impressive on its own, and can help someone who has artistic talent, but I wouldn't call it artistic in and of itself.