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This shit is complicated because nursing homes do often call EMS unnecessarily(this is where the term GOMER or get out of my emergency room comes from in the first place, someone with acute on chronic conditions who needs to be managed but who inpatient care won't really improve). Overall these programs aren't what I'd consider secret and they're not much different than Medicare giving penalties for readmissions regardless of cause(a policy from the government, not private insurance). But I'm not calling a fucking insurance company or even a provider before EMS if I, as an RN, find stroke symptoms. The standard of care just doesn't support it and it opens me up to liability. I call EMS and then call the provider, then coordinate care , document, and give report. The last item on that list is calling an insurance company. This is beyond the pale:
What makes all of this particularly strange is that more than likely the standing orders and policies and procedures of the nursing homes themselves likely maintain the steps I've laid out.
It matters because they control both groups involved in this decision and are financially incentivizing not calling a hospital. They aren’t solving how to make a more efficient determination, they’re pushing people away from getting potentially much needed care. They are functionally paying people to not act when lives are on the line. Train them. Teach them. Don’t literally reward them for rolling the dice with lives.
That is a terrible way to incentivize someone to change their behavior when they could be very well determining who lives or dies. And as we gleaned from the article, there have been totally avoidable casualties from this program.
It’s not complicated. The problem is complicated, but the solution is simple and cruel.