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Mullvad Leta a privacy focus search engine (leta.mullvad.net)

submitted 1 week ago by [email protected] to c/privacy

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[–] Showroom7561 4 points 1 week ago (5 children)

What does this even mean?

What is the point of Leta?

Leta aims to present a reliable and trustworthy way of searching privately on the internet.

However, Leta is useless as a service if you use the perfect non-logging VPN, a privacy focussed DNS service, a web browser that resists fingerprinting, and correlation attacks from global actors. Leta is also useless if your browser blocks all cookies, tracking pixels and other tracking technologies.

For most people Leta can be useful, as the above conditions cannot ever truly be met by systems that are available today.

????? It's "useless" if you use other privacy-focused tools in your browser or internet connection?

[–] NullHawk 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

??? It’s “useless” if you use other privacy-focused tools in your browser or internet connection?

The phrasing is weird. I guess the more privacy-focused tools you have, the more features in Leta becomes redundant.

For most people Leta can be useful, as the above conditions cannot ever truly be met by systems that are available today.

But I guess this line implies using Leta will guarantee completeness? I guess this implies it is difficult to completely block all possible tracking technologies on our own with the tools and systems we have available to us.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I like redundancies. Using Google over a VPN is less effective than using Google through a proxy that also services thousands of other people for Google specifically, for example

[–] Showroom7561 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I guess the more privacy-focused tools you have, the more features in Leta becomes redundant.

But Leta is only supposed to be a proxy search. Being on a VPN or secure DNS should have absolutely no bearing on how it works.

I can see them saying those things if they were Google trying to steal data and show you targeted ads, but it's really strange to be coming from Mullvad's own search proxy tool.

[–] NullHawk 1 points 1 week ago

I think they phrased it poorly by saying using other privacy tool makes leta "useless". Because you're correct, using a VPN or other privacy tool doesn't change how it works. Just that the privacy benefit VPNs provide is also offered by Leta, hence making this specific benefit redundant.

Also, there is nothing wrong with redundancy, it can be a legitimate strategy too.

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