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That article is from 2025, many people bought their teslas at a time when the largest well known "competitor" was the Nisan leaf, a car built with less engineering competency/care than a tin can of beans. The batteries have no active cooling system meaning that one of the most expensive components in the car is going to loose a meaningful amount of lifespan every time you use it, degrading an already crap range
Now the market has lots of good options, but there was a hoooot minute where Tesla was way ahead of anyone else and the best option an environmentally conscious shopper who wanted a new car or an electric car could choose (since EVs weren't widely available on the used market until we got enough of them. Whole convo to be had about whether it was better to buy used or a new electric but that's beside the point)
Edit to add context: the first consumer Tesla models came out in 2010
I drive a 2021 Kona Electric. It's a fantastic vehicle.
Yes, it's from 2025, because as you say, the people who bought their Tesla before we all realized just how much of a lunatic Musk is can't really be blamed.
But nowadays that's no longer true, and case in point, there are better or at least similar options in the market.
Yep, totally agree. In the same price bracket I've heard good things about Rivian. But I really haven't followed electric cars now that there are a lot of good ones, I just remember following the progression of tesla and wondering when other companies would start producing alternatives and catch up.
People have no sympathy for Tesla drivers because they gave tens of thousands of dollars to Elon Musk
If they did that prior to it being widely known that he's a fascist I'm not sure how that's supposed to reflect their moral character. And sure Elon has always been a dumbass but so is basically every CEO, and you don't see us going around saying "you bought a Ford, you're a horrible human". The only difference is that Elon is a public figure, and now a public Nazi. But he hasn't always been a public nazi, and buying one of his cars before he was doesn't meaninfully reflect on the character of the person who made that choice.
A lot of people liked Kanye before his manic decent into "Hitler was a good dude actually" and I wouldn't bash people for owning Kanye music, especially from before that progressive mental break (Progressive as in incremental and progressing over time, not politically progressive)
It's not really "sympathy" to not attack people for making a choice they couldn't have known would support an especially horrible CEO, rather than just a regularly horrible one.
Elon Musk has been observably vile since at least 2018
The first consumer Tesla models came out in 2010. 15 years ago. And even then not everyone keeps tabs on what's up with the CEO of the company they're buying a car from, and is "observing" whether they're being a crappy human.
He only became an actually important public figure to be aware of and pay attention to more recently. The whole discussion framing Tesla owners as bad people does exactly nothing to improve any of the problems we're facing, it just needlessly antagonizes people and makes them feel guilty for something they very well may have done cause they just care about the electrification of cars as a means towards a healthier environment.
The only real purpose it serves is 1) advertising how angry you are about the problem which is worthless, and 2) let's people tell themselves they're fighting the good fight and being a good person by antagonizing random people.
So much of left wing culture feels like it's about sanctimoniously labeling people villians because it let's us feel better about ourselves. Its worse than a waste of energy. I feel we can do better.
Tldr
I'm literally just stating a fact that Tesla owners will be targeted because of their car, and there isn't an excuse after 15 years for why someone wouldn't dump their toxic car if they were legitimately concerned about being targeted.
The excuse is that that's a horrible financial decision for literally exactly zero benefit at a time where it's getting harder and harder to survive?????
I will never understand the insistence that is is good and right and justified to target people for random shit. Like making a bad purchase warrants being bullied or getting your shit vandalised.
I cannot fathom the system of priorities you seem to opperate under. Where performative gestures that cost you huge sums of money and don't accomplish anything are some kind of twisted social obligation because you bought a car from someone who turned out to suck more than anyone realized. And if you don't make that objectively bad life choice then you had it coming.
Thats fucking unhinged. Who does that help??? Go outside. Talk to your neighbors. Ground yourself in meaningful connections with other people. We wanna build socialism but have created a culture that seems to celebrate being emotionally incapable of building social bonds of any kind with anyone who isn't a mirror image of our every choice and priority. Shit makes me sad.
Again, this isn't random, the people who dislike Tesla have very specific reasons, pretending like you don't understand is getting tiring to hear.
You don't get to make bad decisions and have everyone coddle you for it..
I won't enable you here no matter how hard you whine.
Americans get so fucking touchy about a fucking car.
Grow up and learn to engage with reality instead of defaulting to clutching pearls and pretending like I'm just a meanie head
A billionaire who you bought a car from just attempted to overthrow the country.
Yes, and lots of peope who bought said car justifiably had no idea he was a fascist.
Those people still chose poorly in purchasing a tesla. They were never well build cars to begin with. Many issues with reliability, poor build quality, and poor engineering choices. There was no excuse to purchase even then; if you bought one that is on you.
You're not wrong that they have lots of issues though those build quality problems did go wildly under reported for a looong time, and there wasn't exactly any meaningful EV competition. Plus some issues have definitely gotten worse over time, they did used to be a bit better. The removal of sonar to focus solely on optical cameras being an obvious choice
But I don't know that it's really productive to bash people because they made a suboptimal purchase. The ethical argument I understand, but isn't really applicable to a lot of tesla owners