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I like your optimism but the rule of law is rapidly becoming meaningless here.
It's not really optimism, just statements of fact. Same-sex marriage is as protected as it can be without an amendment.
Even if it was protected by amendment it wouldn't be protected from your 'doomer' scenario because that's a complete abandonment of governmental process and legal procedure.
Yes I think complete abandonment of those two things is a fantastic description of the current USA administration. It’s not doomerism, I just read the news.
I read the news as well, I guess we disagree.
I see this and this and see the opposite of the rule of law rapidly becoming meaningless.
I'd say the rule of law is the only thing stopping this administration. Once the courts are lost everything else will start to accelerate.
I want to be convinced and those are affirming articles, but since Roe v Wade fell I’ve just felt like nothing is safe. Any thoughts on Roe falling?
I think the ruling in Dobbs was not made impartially by all Justices. However, the mistake made with abortion and Roe v. Wade was not made in regards to other issues, such as same-sex marriage. Instead of codifying abortion protections into law through Congress everyone decided to rely on the belief that Roe would never be overturned.
Same-sex marriage has been codified into law at the federal level through the Respect for Marriage Act, passed under Biden, by Congress in 2022. There's also a number of states that individually have it protected at the state level through laws or constitutional amendments.
I understand your fear, I share it with you. Right now, though, this regime is still stuck on picking on those in the US with the fewest protections and losing badly. We're finally seeing more cases get through the courts and the administration keeps losing. I think they moved too quickly and expanded to attack immigrants with resources who brought more attention to it than they had planned. The courts work slowly but they have, mostly, still been working.
Now, I think the greatest group at risk is the trans community. Specifically trans youth because they're following the same plan. Go after the weakest of the specific group and then slowly expand. I've seen other people on Lemmy equate it to frogs in slowly heating water.
Yeah we do. I hope you’re right but when he owns the top court in the land none of the lower court stuff means much.
He doesn't own the Supreme Court.
I actually saw a user post on Lemmy recently with the statistics of the current SCOTUS versus previous and the current SCOTUS is roughly in line with previous ones on their rulings.
There's lots of doomer comments on social media about the SCOTUS but that's because the media amplifies the controversial rulings.