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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Humans are part of nature.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I agree. The boundary can easily become diffuse or even silly.

However, there’s a reason I asked what I asked. My ultimate purpose is to show that existence is not perfectly designed, that sometimes it is brutal and grotesque. Unfortunately, people often retort saying nature is brutal and grotesque because of humans. So, by focusing on non-human nature, I’m sidestepping the retort.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Not to me. Sounds more like someone who’s been in a lot of social media arguments, has a vague understanding of the counter arguments, and is trying to solidify their answer to it.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I always though the distinction between natural/unnatural is completely meaningless. We do not consider animal intelligence and its products "unnatural" but we somehow do this for humans.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't know, plastic feels fairly unnatural

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

It's just long dead bio matter with few extra steps.