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So does anyone know a proper alternative that doesn’t scare every non-tech person on my server?
I already lost people when we initially moved from a facebook group to discord.
I believe i can self-host a matrix client but no idea how well it will work with people currently having notifications by discord bot on their phone
In my opinion discord is not yet enshittified enough for these problems to be easily solved. Give it a couple more years, if matrix gains just a bit more traction, the scaffolding to do stuff like that will be worked out.
There’s very little that doesn’t scare non tech people.
According to tech people. 🙃
No, people just don't want to learn anything. They want everything to stay the same and never make compromises. No there is never a drop in one to one replacement for Discord or Windows or whatever else.
Sadly, no. I managed to bring a friend on Signal after years, 3 monthes later they asked me if it's ok if we talk on WhatsApp because it's too bothersome to use two different apps.
smh my head.
Hey, remember in the age of about 9 different messenger protocols, when Pidgin allowed you to message people on the platform they preferred without too much fuss?
The "things we lost in the post-y2k culling of clue and mentorship" box is running out of space.
Pidgin is still around, and you can even use discord with it (no voice, mind you).
I would like to bring the multi-platform client back.
That's not because it's scary or people can't understand how to use it, it's just bothersome.
Revolt is probably the closest fit https://revolt.chat/
poor name choice
How is it better then discord?
Well, discording is better than revolting
Safe binaries we can validate with signed manifests, or just ISO27002-violating FlatSnappImage spooge?
I heard Element just added screensharing
It's still in beta and audio appears to not always work when streaming. Though, there's recent activity on the related issues, so hopefully it gets out of beta before Discord alienates the regular user.
I tested it a few days ago and besides the audio problem it appears to work very well.
Element with Matrix.org is getting pretty decent.
Keet is pretty cool and (granted I am a tech person) is pretty dead simple to use.
I signed up with Matrix and it was not seamless but maybe a private server would be great and they could go from there (but that feels like a long term commitment to supporting those users). I haven't really played much with it. Tried getting the folks in my discord server to give it a try but they haven't and they are tech folks. I would say it's not ready for normies, but I really wish it was.
I still have it installed on my phone, but I don't really have anywhere interesting to go. Same with Signal TBH—it's installed but no one I know uses it. Still waiting on my invite from the Secretary of Defense.
says the guy who also says
as if the two ideas aren't the same.
If you do it right, too, the private server is $0 in continuing labour.