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[–] [email protected] 169 points 2 days ago (2 children)

wow so sad, it's almost like they started multiple wars or something

[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I feel terrible for every citizen killed or made homeless/jobless because of this.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Just a reminder: 82% of all the Israeli Jews support ethnic cleansing in Gaza.

Just saying.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

It feels like there's reason to inflate those numbers both for Israel and Palestine. Do we know they're credible? Genuinely asking, I'm not sure from my cursory searx.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

every citizen in Palestine and Iran too right?

[–] Tiger666 10 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

I don't. I only feel terrible for the ones who were opposed to these attacks on other countries. Most of them (if the statistics I've seen are to be believed) support the actions, so they deserve the consequences. Maybe these people dying horrifically will finally make others consider the value of lives.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Fun fact: every citizen of the entity is considered a reservist so there ARE no civilians! If you're a settler you're a valid target no matter what!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Idk man. If you’re a child, a unhoused, or a otherwise a person without the economic means to leave because your ancestors were settlers and you just so happened to be born in the colonized land, I’d consider you a civilian. I think your view is too black and white.

Screw you if you’re a deliberate Zionist benefiting from genocide though.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Israelis aren't walled in and prevented from leaving like Palestinians are in Gaza.

Israelis have no practical excuse to continue their occupation, especially when everyone is forced to serve in the IDF to actively aid the occupation rather than just passively.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

As long as they are not on active duty, they shouldn't be targets. And if they are forced to serve, they should still only be killed if they are an active threat. Normally, they should first be offered to surrender.

Hope you're acting ironic and do not actually call to genocide all Jews in Israel.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Hope you're acting ironic by saying that you can commit a genocide, put your gun over the fireplace you murdered a family to steal, and suddenly not be a valid target.

It doesn't matter if you put your gun down as a settler colonizer. You're still actively engaging in the genocide. You are still a valid target.

And the objective of any just war is to expel you.

Normally, they should first be offered to surrender.

Get on a plane and go home. No one's stopping you. That's your opportunity.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

How are you engaging in genocide if you do not take part in the war? And especially if you denounce the actions of your government? Is being born in Israel enough to be seen as a genocidal maniac?

I swear this "settler" discourse is gonna drive me crazy at some point.

[–] Tiger666 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, but all Israelis that are zionists maybe.

Zionists are not Jewish people, they are actually against Judaism.

I believe it's the Talmud that says Israel cannot exist until the messiah returns. This is why you have many religious Jews in the US against the state of Israel.

Zionists are the one and only antisemites.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Zionists are mostly Jews, but Jews are mostly not Zionists.

But yes, according to Talmud, Israel shouldn't exist.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There are more Christian Zionists than there are Jews in total.

"Zionists are mostly Jews" is an objectively false statement.

Maybe specifically in Israel the statement could be seen as true, but that's only because Israel is a jewish settler ethnostate, so most of almost any grouping would be a majority Jews.

[–] Tiger666 0 points 1 day ago

Zionist are not jews. They might say they are but the are against Judaism just like southern Christians are not Christians.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I don’t want to talk ethics, but as a rule of thumb, winning a war is easier if you take out strategic targets than if you target civilians. Targeting civilians is what you do if your weapons aren’t precise enough to target tanks/planes etc.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago

Hopefully they take the opportunity for a fresh start and move out of the settler occupation of Palestine.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If they voted for Netanyahu they asked for it, and I have no sympathy.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well I'm glad all of your elected officials represent your views and morals.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The majority of Israelis supports the genocide of the Palestinians according to surveys and more than half of jewish Israelis support attacking Iran even without US support.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What kind of citizen? Palestinian? Iranian?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago

What they can't do some wars and genocide now???