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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The rest are in undeclared labor camps

Goes for both

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

The reeducation camps closed years ago. Here you have a western source claiming so:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/09/23/china-xinjiang-crackdown-uyghurs-surveillance/

Surely a champion of Uyghur rights would be aware of this already?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The rest are in undeclared labor camps

Goes for both

US labor camps are not undeclared (though extraterritorial black sites are). They’re called prisons, and the labor is slave labor, thanks to the 13th amendment.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The previous user is a bit off base with the labor camps idea (not to say that the Xinjiang detention camps for Uyghurs aren't widely known), but it is worth noting that China does utilize administrative detentions/行政拘留 for smaller offenses which are kept statistically separate from prison counts.

If Raiden needs a source, the law covering administrative detentions can be reviewed here:

https://www.gov.cn/xinwen/2021-01/23/content_5582030.htm

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (2 children)

but it is worth noting that China does utilize administrative detention

Isn't that the same as Jails in the US which is separate from prison statistics?

Jail is where you go for the night when arrested for disorderly conduct and are released the next day.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Administrative detentions can be longer. On paper they can hold you about a month, but it can be longer than that with a judge's signoff if they have proof of a crime.

This is typically where the police try to get you to confess to something and drag it out as long and uncomfortably as possible until you do, after which you either get to go free (though you end up on a list for a long time) or you may go to a "black jail"/黑監獄 which is a sort of under-the-table prison.

The terms of release can also sometimes require completion of a rehabilitation program, which is often the voluntary alternative to prison, or getting transferred to a short stay detention center for a few months to perform community service.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Administrative detentions can be longer. On paper they can hold you about a month, but it can be longer than that with a judge’s signoff if they have proof of a crime.

And in the US, jail can be up to just short of a year.

This is typically where the police try to get you to confess to something and drag it out as long and uncomfortably as possible until you do, after which you either get to go free (though you end up on a list for a long time) or you may go to a “black jail”/黑監獄 which is a sort of under-the-table prison.

The terms of release can also sometimes require completion of a rehabilitation program, which is often the voluntary alternative to prison, or getting transferred to a short stay detention center for a few months to perform community service.

So pretty similar to the US.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

And in the US, jail can be up to just short of a year.

I'd like to point out, 'proper' jail, for misdemeanor level offenses, is 'up to a year,' but I personally know individuals who have been in jail (where people awaiting trial stay, in addition to people convicted of misdemeanors) for over three years now, still waiting on their trial.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Yeah, the justice system in the US is pretty fucked up. Provably so, with plenty of data made publicly available to back it up.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Jail is usually for holding during due process and for sentences up to a year. Prison is generally for sentences longer than a year.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Xinjiang reeducation camps were closed around 2022 though?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Source: The US propaganda you received and believe uncritically.

What's next, you explaining their inherent need to lie because of their race?