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Judge backs AI firm over use of copyrighted books (www.bbc.com)

submitted 23 hours ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 115 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm not pirating. I'm building my model.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

To anyone who is reading this comment without reading through the article. This ruling doesn't mean that it's okay to pirate for building a model. Anthropic will still need to go through trial for that:

But he rejected Anthropic's request to dismiss the case, ruling the firm would have to stand trial over its use of pirated copies to build its library of material.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

I also read through the judgement, and I think it's better for anthropic than you describe. He distinguishes three issues:

A) Use any written material they get their hands on to train the model (and the resulting model doesn't just reproduce the works).

B) Buy a single copy of a print book, scan it, and retain the digital copy for a company library (for all sorts of future purposes).

C) Pirate a book and retain that copy for a company library (for all sorts of future purposes).

A and B were fair use by summary judgement. Meaning this judge thinks it's clear cut in anthropics favor. C will go to trial.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

C could still bankrupt the company depending on how trial goes. They pirated a lot of books.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

As a civil matter, the publishing houses are more likely to get the full money if anthropic stays in business (and does well). So it might be bad, but I'm really skeptical about bankruptcy (and I'm not hearing anyone seriously floating it?)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

Depending on the type of bankruptcy, the business can still operate, all their profits would just be going towards paying off their depts.