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If you're on windows this means you don't own the file. Go to properties security and take ownership.
The default windows configuration is aimed at old people who will call tech support when they fuck up their PC.
You can take ownership of pretty much the entire filesystem.
Windows is actually hugely customizable people just don't.
Glad to see another voice of sanity regarding Windows.
If you haven't learned by now, on Lemmy the only valid option for dealing with Windows configuration and basic Windows admin tasks is to yeet Windows and go to Linux.
Sometimes one wants to access a file without making changes though. Escalating privileges is the answer in this scenario and windows doesn't make that as easy,as it doesn't really want to you act as SYSTEM
100% true, and a great counterpoint.
Copium/denial
That's well beyond even power user (imo) and into the forensic analysis realm though, where you should probably be using dedicated tools. I'm pretty sure there are still ways around this, ways to back up and restore the ACLs, but I haven't ran into a need to not touch the modified timestamp in the decade or so I've been doing tech work professionally nor in the decade before as simply a young enthusiast. There's still ways around that timestamp too, and arguments to be made that adjusting the ACL is touching metadata rather than the file itself.I do what I can to stay out of ACLs at my workplace.
Windows ACLs are far more complicated than they have any right to be, and file perms are generally far simpler on Linux.
Not true. The only valid option to deal with Windows at all is to yeet it and go to Linux.
That isn't the reason to yeet Windows. If you were talking years ago about 7 or XP, things were different. 10 is not that great comparably, and 11 is a mess. But keep your Windows, if it's what works for you. Until it doesn't.
Dual boot for the best of both worlds (although I'm finding myself more and more on the Linux side because it's better for me.)
Even Windows 11 still has all the options Windows 7 had, and plenty more. Stop swallowing the Linux propaganda.
It's the constant war on end users that chased me away from windows.
You can't say no to their relentless advertising. It's "maybe later". The pushing to require a Microsoft account. Ads in the start menu. Windows Recall.
The list goes on. You get as much agency as Microsoft allows, or you violate your eula and modify the os to remove things you don't want.
We didn't know it at the time, but windows 7 was peak windows.
Related joke:
Does Microsoft understand consent?
Yes / Ask me again later
100% valid choice. I'd argue that it's even the correct one.
That said, those specific examples are all "solved". My issue is that the overwhelming amount of Linux pushers here tend to act as though those issues are literally unsolvable.
The ads are nearly all controlled from a single yes/no switch a single level deep into the settings menu. And that switch has not been reset by updates in at least four years. Since I've joined lemmy, every single "Microsoft is pushing more ads into Windows" article I've seen has been talking about ads controlled by this same singular switch.
Things like the pushing of the Microsoft account and Recall are mostly avoided by using their Professional SKU/License/OS version and using GPO to disable those features. Or to take specific steps during install. You have to use the tools they have for corporate customers that have specific legal guidelines that prevent them from being able to use whatever MS's new revenue extraction trick is.
Bullshit? Yes. Should anyone have to do this shit to have a decent OS? No.
But if you're savvy enough to navigate Linux, you're more than capable of navigating this shit on Windows. It's not impossible.
It's not propaganda if anyone can try things out for themselves, and even use them both if they want. Stop trying to keep your MS stock high.
I just riced my work computer, let me fucken tell ya about tricking out a windows machine: its fucking embarrassing. Not that its fundamentally different than customizing Linux, for both you download apps (or packages). But its a clumsy ass mess on windows that has to overlay the existing shit, on Linux the only shit that exists is what I want. I dont have to deal with an onery built in taskbar, or trick a built in window manager to be tiling. The one I pick does what I want.
Sounds like a bad excuse for having a shitty product.
I work in this space profressionally. Systems administrarion, architecture, design, and integration. Please take your single sentence "hot takes" elsewhere.
Windows is far from "a shitty product" or "broken". It is developed by horrid anti-consumer motherfuckers out to extract as much profit as possible from their least profitable user base: home users. Evil as hell, sure, but so is nearly every large corporation that makes shit that fills your personal hovel you call home. If that makes them untouchable for you, that is a great choice. But that does not factually impact the usability or usefulness of the product.
Linux is awesome and necessary. Open source is the only way this whole mess keeps working far into the future, and I am no stranger to compiling shit from source and submitting pull requests.
My problems with the Linux community, specifically on Lemmy, are these: Linux is not "just easier" and depressingly still not ready for the average consumer unwilling to tinker. The overwhelming majority of complaints about Windows so frequently posted here are solved problems that people pretend are entirely unfixable, or refuse to learn how to fix. For many people venting about their computer, it would be easier to direct them how to fix what they have rather than try to use it as an opportunity to push your ~~religion~~ OS of choice.
If you can manage Linux, I promise that "fixing" a Windows install is well within your reach. Plenty of problems with it, but "broken"? "Unusable"? Take a look outside at the majority of the world, or even the fucking Steam user statistics and get back to me on that. More than good enough for the overwhelming majority.
Oh jeez... you're right. Sorry for expressing a view you disagree with. I feel firmly told off now.
In the basic case you go to settings and change permissions.
In the more typical case for os modifications, you go to that tab, open advanced properties, change the owner account by typing in "everyone" or your account name by hand, saving, closing reopening the advanced security settings, probably disable inheritance then create a new permission entry.
In the most extreme case, where you change files belonging to something critical like windows defender or edge, you can't.
The only way I am aware of is booting into an older windows install iso, or a live linux iso, then performing the modifications there.
Disclaimer: I have not done this on windows 11 yet, but I can't imagine the process got simplified.
Windows has a lot of systems that allow some more complicated modifications. Those are often unnecessarily obfuscated, the registry for example doesn't have to be a weird custom database, it could have been part of the filesystem or at least a more standard database format. Windows will sometimes bite you with weird sketchy systems breaking expectations, and this tends to become inevitable when you try to change stuff Microsoft has decided to remove consumer choice on.
If Edge and the account push were as easy to avoid as learning how to take basic file ownership, we might not be where we are now (i.e. on Linux).
Except when you want to customize it to stop it from updating against your will. Then fuck you, secret code to change your settings and settings that simply do nothing.
You should keep your software updated.