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When lunatics start talking about expelling all Israelis 'Back to Europe' instead of integrating them in a one-state solution
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this post was submitted on 06 Jul 2025
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Are you... did you not read what you literally fucking quoted? Not only is that not 'the allies', but rather independent Zionist orgs making a deal with Nazi Germany, but it's not giving land, and it's not post-WW2 like you claimed.
Oh, okay, since Palestinians are being genocided right now, we can call for a little genocide of Israelis, as a treat.
"Please don't advocate for genocide or antisemitism"
"Oh, so you think the current situation for ZIONISTS is just as bad as the ongoing Palestinian genocide???"
...
Yes, it's increasingly apparent that you're quite willing to tolerate calls for genocide as long as the 'other side' committed genocide first.
When I can post literal quoted history and you aren't capable of internalizing that it makes me feel you aren't interested in a serious conversation about this.
What was the group that forced Germany to pay reperations?
Cmon say it with me, the allies!
FFS you are crashing out my dude.
In the quoted and cited incident, as I pointed out, there were no 'allies' who made Germany pay anything.
In the postwar situation, no one made Germany pay reparations to anyone involved in this situation we are discussing except the survivors of the Holocaust, and those reparations had nothing to do with the land of Israel, which was under the British Mandate of Palestine.
Jesus fucking Christ.
I'm sorry for having an understanding of the recent history of the region instead of some bizarre fucking fever dream.
Do you think Germany would have voluntarily stopped WW2 and voluntarily made reperations all on their own?
No. That's literally Revisionist history.
Don't be ignorant on purpose
what the ever-loving fuck does that have to do with the foundation of Israel and Zionists acquiring land in Palestine
If you want to learn the history of Zionism:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lovers_of_Zion
The founders of modern Zionism started the ideology with the stated goal of reposessing the holy land that was promised to them by god.
This group of rich Russian and Austrian jews were able to place themselves at the table during the reperations process after WW2, they then convinced the Allied forces to give them the british owned land in the reigon, and they have been expanding their boarders ever since.
This is human history, verifiable.
Please for your own sake stop frothing and start reading Wikipedia articles.
Jesus fucking Christ.
For fuck's sake, please read up on the history of the British Mandate, including the fucking Balfour Declaration, before making insane fucking statements about Zionists being given Israel by the Allies after WW2.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandate_for_Palestine
So the mandate was created after WW1, not 2, with the purpose of giving jewish people a national homeland and having a bunch of European countries control the reigon for 3 decades until they let it expire and let the Jews and Palestinians sort it out with each other.
So the allied forces colonized the reigon for Zionists to move in and take land that was being owned by other people, and then shugged their shoulders and walked away...
You're not making a case here for the Zionists.
I'm not trying to make a case for the Zionists, I'm pointing out that your idea that "NATO" or "The Allies" 'gave land' to Israel because they 'felt bad' about the Holocaust is absolute nonsense.