this post was submitted on 09 Jun 2023
294 points (100.0% liked)

Politics

10267 readers
160 users here now

In-depth political discussion from around the world; if it's a political happening, you can post it here.


Guidelines for submissions:

These guidelines will be enforced on a know-it-when-I-see-it basis.


Subcommunities on Beehaw:


This community's icon was made by Aaron Schneider, under the CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0 license.

founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Archive Link from archive.today

Original Link from The New York Times

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Not to say you are wrong with anything you're saying.. But I am asolutely confident that pigs will learn to fly before he gets convicted for treason. Did he commit it? A clear "yes" from me (non-American but I dont think that matters; it is basically an accepted fact among all that understand what "treason" usually means in a country-context). Will the prosecutors be able to prove it through a brigade of lawyers? I dont think so.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm not a lawyer elsewhere in the world, but the United States has a very specific and very narrow definition for what is considered "treason." Article III, § 3 of the Constitution states that

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort . . . .

I'm not an expert in this area, but from some legal analysis I've come across, another hurdle to convicting on treason is that in order to have an "enemy," there needs to be an official declaration of war.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yeah, people have been using the words treason / sedition / insurrection interchangeably. January 6th is obviously not treason, but it’s understandable that people meant something else and got confused.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Oh, absolutely! I was just trying to add to the discourse.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Hopefully his track record of losing in court holds up.