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This is like the rolling coal of meat eating. I hoped we were better than this
Who's we? Don't associate with anyone
fossil fuels need to be phased out completely.
meat eating doesn't, it can be part of sustainable gardening.
but yeah the anti-vegan circlejerk is stupid, who gives a shit what you eat
The world is burning. Meat has got to go, just like short holidays by plane. And of course a whole bunch of other things. There is very little room to bargain here as we're way behind on our targets.
We all should because we share this planet. You should judge a friend who eats steak frequently the same as someone who once in a while chops down a bit of rainforest. The consequences are the same.
you are an extremist mate, chickens in you backyard helping keep your garden clean won't end the planet
The animals that are being eaten, presumably
what about you killing my beloved tomatoes?
Would chickens really know tho?
Is that the metric then? If you don't know you're going to be killed, it's ok to kill you?
If a life form alien to me was going to suddenly, randomly (from my perspective) kill me to use me as food, I don't think I would necessarily mind because I had no idea it was going to happen. If I lived my entire life in fear that I could be killed at any moment, I'd be less ok with it.
I guess what I was going for was that trying to compare a chicken's understanding of mortality to our own isn't a compelling argument to me. I think the simple fact that they're alive and deserve to be treated with dignity is a better argument.
I don't know what the metric is, but chickens wouldn't exist without us eating them. So from a species standpoint they need us to keep eating them. From a humane standpoint it's probably cruel to keep the species alive.
Agreed. The chicken's closest natural ancestor, the red jungle fowl, would continue to live in the wild. Unlike modern chickens, they only lay around once a month (as opposed to upwards of once a day), and they aren't bred to be excessively large to the point that many can't even walk properly. It would definitely be more humane to let these human made species go extinct.