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Yeah have you ever lived in the USSR? Have you ever been to a post soviet country? Yeah...
The USSR took a backwater state that was still stuck in feudalism (meaning fucking serfdom) and within a single human generation sent the first person into space. They started from a way worse state than the west and made incredible achievements. They did this without the help of first world powers, and were even hindered by constant economic warfare to boot.
Yeah, you can visit ex Soviet states and see the degradation. Most of their failing infrastructure was built under Soviet planning and has since gone to rot. Economic liberalization has brought nothing to the table, and has obviously failed utterly at whatever promises we're made initially.
None of what I'm saying is even debatable. The economic truths of the USSR are easily learned. YOU are a western chauvinist dipshit who looks at the achievements of actual socialism and without a single bit of historical material understanding spouts some ignorant bullshit. I'll be clear: save your breath to instead talk about whatever authoritarian atrocities were supposedly dealt out. When you talk about the economic failures of the USSR you are treading on ahistorical bullshit that has no real ground.
Yeah sure, with all the licensed and stolen western tech. Mother russia couldn't even mass produce a consumer automobile SOMEONE ELSE DESIGNED FOR THEM. This was the state of soviet manufacturing. Outdated western designs built in a that'll do fashion.
The United States had von Braun and the entire V2 rocket team, together with intact copies of V2, and still lost to the Soviets in the ICBM race who had to reverse engineer everything from scratch!
And by the way, the V2 was a really really shitty rocket compared even to R-2 (the first Soviet designed rocket after replicating V2/R-1), and they can’t even be compared to the R-7, the world’s first ICBM. That’s how far they took the technology forward.