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[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hexbear's horde of mouthbreathers

Main Character Syndrome is symptomatic of lib-brain. SAD! trump-drenched

[–] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 3 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Never heard of hexbear but why does an instance that claims to be leftist use Trump memes and back Russia?

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 38 points 2 years ago

biden-leftist we all love biden and our liberal queen hillary clinton, light itself planet-hillary

[–] TomBombadil@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Trump is funny. Obviously. Terrible but hilarious. We don't back Russia we just understand NATO to generally be far more destructive and deadly. That's just old Tom Bombadilaros thoughts.

[–] Revanee@lemmy.one 6 points 2 years ago (9 children)

That's so dumb... To consider a defensive alliance more destructive and deadly that a corrupt state waging a war of expansion

[–] Flinch@hexbear.net 37 points 2 years ago

Hell yeah brother we defended the shit out of Libya freedom-and-democracy

[–] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A defence of what? The people who invented global warming? Nah, hard pass.

[–] Grimble@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago

Sure it's defensive, I just wish the people it's defending were attacked more gigachad

[–] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 35 points 2 years ago

NATO is a defensive alliance

– every white neofascist

[–] Gorillatactics@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago

A Defensive alliance made up of all the great colonial powers.

[–] MultigrainCerealista@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago

Serbia, Libya, and Afghanistan were all defensive operations.

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Defensive alliance that bombs every third world country that dares to go against the interests of the imperial core? Who are they "defending again?

us-foreign-policy

Also how much has NATO expanded since the end of the cold war with its mafia protection racket style tactics in Europe?

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago

"That's so dumb, to consider a defensive alliance with the Serbian Black Hand more destructive and deadly than the Central Power's Imperialism waging a war of expansion" -Average Allied Nations Second International Member, 1914

[–] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago

this is why we support Russia (Donbass to be Precise ) , this is also why Propagnda does not only happens to "other people" Mr. @Revanee@lemmy.one

[–] Grimble@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago

A military alliance of several superpower nations VS one angry revanchist state. Who's more dangerous?

[–] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 0 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Russia - starts wars and threatens nuclear holocaust - you sleep

NATO - literally just exists - you wake

Russia's #1 export is troll farms and that's why Russia is the most hated country in the world. Y'all just give people more reason to hate Russia.

[–] egg1918@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

NATO - literally just exists - you wake

How many millions of civilians were murdered/killed/starved/driven from their homes/displaced by American and NATO led imperialist wars such as the bombing of Yugoslavia, the invasion of Afghanistan, the bombing of Libya, or Isr*el's genocidal occupation of Palestine, which is proudly supported by the US and NATO?

[–] FaeDrifter@midwest.social -2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Fewer than Russia but you LOVE when Russia does it.

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

You honestly think less civilians were killed in all those things COMBINED than by Russia? Really? That's actually one of the most wild liberal claims I've ever seen, and thats saying something. You've lost attachment to reality.

[–] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Prove me wrong. If you can't, well of course you're a troll farm and you're part of the reason Russia has a reputation as the shitstain of the world.

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You made the extraordinary claim. Your job to provide proof.

Also I'm an American communist from New England. One of the posts on my profile is about weird shit in the American Pie movies. Another recent one you can actually see is about Skyrim. Clearly troll farm shit. (I'd point out the idea that the Kremlin would bother to astroturf lemmy is INSANE, but that ones been falling on deaf ears because you all are so self important).

[–] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So I'm supposed to believe that a bunch of queers are simping for a dictatorship that murders queers?

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Jesus I really doubt someone with Fae in their name is cishet but you used that word really slurishly.

simping for a dictatorship

I'm not. Looking at the Ukraine War with the nuance and knowledge of geopolitics it deserves isn't simping for Putin. I hate the Putin regime, especially what they do to their queer community. Its not like Ukraine is that much better on queer issues though?

My posting history goes back three years before federation. You'll find very few of my posts were about the Ukraine war.

[–] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago

I'm obviously queer af. And wtf about that was slur, and how could you be more bothered that someone used the word "queer" online more than a dictatorship that genocides queer people.

Unless you hate queer people, and hate being reminded they exist, and you want them to be removed from the world.

Nuance

What nuance? No one from Hexbear has posted anything nuanced, it's all whataboutism of every other country that isn't Russia.

Y'all are literally more offended than anyone would criticize Russia than anything else.

[–] egg1918@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Show me the numbers, liberal. Post your source for that wild claim.

[–] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-war-already-with-up-354000-casualties-likely-drag-us-documents-2023-04-12/

Ukraine war ALONE is over 350,000. The one that Russia started after telling lies about training operations.

Russia is a murder and lie machine. Russia's primary exports are murder, lies, and nuclear terrorism.

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You're counting both sides but then blaming only Russia lol? Hard to take that seriously. Give us Ukrainian deaths, preferably only civilian deaths, and then we might have a conversation.

Russia's primary exports are murder, lies, and nuclear terrorism.

That would be the United States actually. Especially the last thing since Russia has never nuked anyone and America has.

[–] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You know how US Republicans like to claim that they are the party that ended slavery?

If you have to dig way back in history to make your point relevant and ignore everything that's happening in the present day, your point is stupid and your mental stretching looks ridiculous.

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I don't have to dig back very far to find US atrocities actually. The Afgan war ended two years ago and was one of the counterpoints brought up to you.

But the idea that the United States is acutally better today than when they dropped the bombs is rich. At least we were nominally fighting fascism then.

ETA: OK so if by "nuclear terrorism" you mean... the mere act of having nukes and the implicit threat of using them. America has nukes too. Today. In 2023. Or is it only nuclear terrorism when bad country has nukes?

[–] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 1 points 2 years ago

Putin has threatened nukes. Biden has not threatened nukes.

At least we were nominally fighting fascism then.

America was fighting a fascist enemy, not against fascism itself. America practically invented fascism.

There are no limit of ways to criticize the US, but it's slowly, marginally getting better. The US is slowly progressing.

Russia is getting worse.

[–] Sator_is_Tense@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

nuclear terrorism

who has Russia nuked

[–] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 1 points 2 years ago

Putin has threatened to use nukes as recently as this year.

Are you defending a dictator who threatens to start a nuclear holocaust?

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My favorite part is saying that Russia exports "Nuclear terrorism" when saying that Russia is worse than... the only country that has dropped a nuclear bomb.

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

Yeah, that really was the cherry on top of the frothingfash Sunday.

[–] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago

Literally just existing, chilling, sprinkling unexploded cluster bombs throughout the country side for Ukrainian children to step on for generations to come, vibing.

[–] DoiDoi@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

dog how can you be this clueless about NATO and still have such a strong opinion lmao

https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/1052756

the idea of NATO "just existing" is a straight up rejection of history

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

NATO - literally just exists

HOLLLLLYYYY FUCCCKKKIIIINNNNGGG SHIIIIIIIITTTTTT

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago

We also use Hillary Clinton and Biden memes, doesn't mean we support them lmao.

Ever heard of this thing called "irony"? Might be worth checking out

[–] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Because Russia is the same as America in pretty much every way. So it is fascist infighting. Trump is also the same as pretty much the same as every other president. Liberals just hate him for idiosyncratic reasons. So it is funny

[–] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Russia is America's every bad quality dialed up to 12 on steroids. Russia actually manages to make America look good, that's just what a steaming pile of garbage Russia is. The bar is so low even America can get over it.

[–] charlie@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

NATO - starts wars and keeps the meat grinder rolling all in the furtherance of capitalist dogma - you sleep

Russia - literally just exists - you wake

NATO’s #1 export is war and that's why NATO is hated around the world. Y'all just give people more reason to hate NATO.

[–] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Russia starting a war with 350,000 casualties and threatening to nuke the West is not literally just existing. If Russia wanted to literally just exist, they never would have literally invaded another country while lying about "training exercises".

You're pro-Russian terrorism, it's not a good look.

[–] charlie@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

NATO encircled a world power and for the last couple decades have worked to instigate a war that has led to the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of people on the gamble that Russia would fall and allow the west to loot the country, exactly as they plan to loot a war torn Ukraine. For capitalism.

You’re pro-NATO terrorism, it’s not a good look.

[–] FaeDrifter@midwest.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's pure speculation.

You literally have to create a fantasy about NATO doing something in the future to justify Russia actually doing evil things right now.

Being pro imaginary terrorism is way better than being pro real terrorism.

[–] charlie@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

NATO started this war by intentionally instigating Russia into conflict, using Ukraine as a proxy. Multiple times NATO have stood in the way of peace talks. That’s terrorism.

Russia, defending ethnically Russian peoples against a state government hostile to their continued existence, and guarding against being encircled by NATO is not terrorism it’s kindergarten level geopolitics

[–] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Calling Ukrainians "ethically Russian" is a real fascist type of perspective.

Murdering Ukrainians and caring it "defending them" is just plan psychopathic.

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

The fuck are you talking about?