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Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.

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Freenode now belongs to Andrew Lee, and I'm leaving for a new network (fuchsnet.ch)

submitted 3 years ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 children)

So switch from one mostly centralized service being currently taken over by a dodgy crypto-currency linked company (Freenode Inc.) to one that already has been a for-profit dodgy crypto-currency funded company (NewVector/Element) for some years?

Libera.chat is at least run by a Swedish non-profit with all volunteer admins (but is also too centralized).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 years ago (1 children)

I don't see any reason for communities which prefer IRC to make a move to matrix but your comment seems unfounded.

Matrix Foundation, which is a steward of matrix protocol, is a UK non-profit community interest company.

Element is a for-profit but how exactly is it dodgy? It is primarily a FOSS company. Their only connection to cryptoidiocy I know of is in some experimental P2P matrix implementations.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 children)

Read up a bit on the funding history of New Vector Ltd. i.e. about their VC funding and the "strategic" 2018 merger with Status (Ethereum-based chat and crypto wallet app).

The foundation was IMHO only created as an afterthought to make [Matrix] more palatable for the wider OS community.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 years ago (1 children)

From the blog by status:

Furthermore, the collaboration between Status and Matrix is expected to:

Utilize the Status Network token within Riot.im by enabling crypto assets

Create a bridge between Matrix and Whisper (Ethereum’s own real-time communication protocol)

Integrate Status DApps as widgets within Riot.im

This does sour my view of Element.

Matrix Foundation might have been an afterthought but it still is a valid step in ensuring at least some independence of the protocol from Element.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago

True, the foundation is not all bad, but at least currently the people in charge of it are the same persons (& close friends) as those running NewVector Ltd. Once that changes significantly I am willing to soften my stance on the foundation itself.