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Has anyone else noticed how prevalent Hexbear posters have suddenly become? Maybe sometime last week I noticed nearly every political post had at least one long thread of Hexbear users that do nothing but repeat CCP talking points while waving anyway anything even remotely reliable as Western propaganda. That or getting all excited about trolled libs. The way they tell it, you'd think everything from DW, to Fox, to Propublica, to straight up AP News articles, are all written by the same people.

Not to mention, their info on the Fediverse observer is either straight up wrong or there's some serious botting going on. According to that, the instance is less than a month old, yet somehow they already have one of the largest, most active userbases, along with far and away the most comments of any instance.

Seems to me like Lemmygrad on steroids. Considering we defederated from them, seems like a no-brainer to block Hexbear as well.

So glad this thread could become such a perfect microcosm of why we need to defederate.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I have no problem with communism, I have a problem with authoritarian propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 year ago (28 children)

Let's not pretend that your politics aren't inherently authoritarian as well.

Either you support capitalism (or worse), which is grossly authoritarian as it inflicts massive violence not only via warfare but through mass starvation and deprivation, or you support socialism, in which case you have two options:

  1. The violent overthrow of the current system (spoiler alert: that's a very authoritarian thing to do!)

  2. The gradual reform of the current system, meaning maintaining the status quo for an exceptionally long time as we ever so slowly creep our way to a more just economic system while countless people starve, go homeless, die without healthcare, end up in yet-another war and so on (which is a very authoritarian proposition, just throwing away the lives of the poor in your own country-not to mention those in the developing world-just so you can have a neat and tidy reformist approach that doesn't rock the boat.)

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (15 children)

name your favourite anti-authoritarian system. you wanna have a revolution to create it? whoopsie doopsie, you're literally forcing people (maybe at gunpoint!!!) to do something that they don't want to do, you fucking authoritarian tankie monster. next you'll be saying you want to get rid of corporations (extremely authoritarian over those business owners)

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which political system do you suggest is more authoritarian than the owner of the largest military in the world, the largest police force in the world, and the largest intelligence (espionage) agency in the world?

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago

Don't forget the largest prison population.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If you have no problem with communists and you have a problem with authoritarianism you may wish to read this short essay by Friedrich Engels, one of the most important communists in history, on the matter: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1872/10/authority.htm

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Damn this was actually successful. Nice work.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

We're out here winning hearts and minds bay-beee lets-fucking-go

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago

I'd say he's the second most important communist in history.... bookmarked to read later.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago

All political systems are authoritarian.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago

Propaganda is any alternative to the hegemony of Western corporate media

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

all political systems require authoritarian principles until class can be abolished after communism, do you know anything about the words you are using?

Police are authoritarian, for instance. Do you think your "democracy" is peaceful? Do you think it is nonviolent?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago

Then you should have a problem with the term itself "authoritarian propaganda"