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cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/2881638

The largest piracy community is hosted over at [email protected]

lemmy.world has blocked it. It appears to have also blocked [email protected].

If this is a problem for you, I'd suggest migrating accounts using LASIM to an instance that doesn't block it (such as lemm.ee).

edit:

An official announcement has been made:

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Well at least lemmy.world is starting to look more and more like shit. Can't keep the servers up, keep defeding, absolute nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The instance wasn't defederated. Just the community blocked.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Why tho. I can block a community myself if i dont want to see it. This does not make sense.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 years ago (2 children)

They want to avoid lawsuit. Which are probably going to happen to dbzer0, I don't know where they are hosted, but they might get in trouble once they reach a large userbase

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

No pirated content is hosted on the instance. It’s just refugees from communities that already existed on reddit for years with no issues.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I went over to my other account and got this https://lemm.ee/post/4235833

Ive seen this account or at least the same kinda text with communities some dick wants to be defederated on all sort of instances. Looks like a troll

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Then why doesn't Reddit have that problem with r/piracy?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

They have lawyers to defend themselves.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

They do, they just have the manpower to deal with it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They are afraid of liabilities, maybe...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There is no "maybe", that's exactly what it is (it's in the OP's link).

Lemmy.world may be one of the largest instances but it never promised to be a straight Reddit clone. While it's still figuring out scaling up and still attracting large DDOS attacks, the last thing they need to be dealing with is DMCA claims and letters from copyright lawyers.

This is the beauty of federated social media. Don't like the rules? Go somewhere else.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Me? I currently don't care... I am not interested in that community, I know that people who are interested can still visit it from other instances.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Because community content is cached on other instances, so you can find all the content from these piracy communities under the lemmy.world domain as well and this is likely to be interpreted by law enforcement / a judge as hosting this content, which can get the server admins into legal trouble depending on the jurisdiction.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

IIRC, lemmy.world is hosted in the US, making them liable under US laws.

edit: IR incorrectly ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They are actually hosted in Finland, but some of the admins are US based and can thus also get into legal trouble. Not sure about the legal situation in Finland.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

The server and owner are in Europe. Though the anti piracy laws here are tough. Honestly can’t blame them.

There are other instances that don’t have this issue though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Which doesn't makes it less shitty.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

It does. Defederating basically blocks all their communities and users for everyone on your instance. It's a far bigger deal than blocking a community

I still don't agree with the decision, but it's a matter of scale

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

they are volunteers paying from their own wallets to keep this going. You aren't entitled to anything on the fediverse. grow up.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

And the end product isn't very good, regardless of effort.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Your parents would agree

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

I don't think you understand what "defeding" means.