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Even State Department-funded Human Rights Watch admits that authorities combine legal and illegal methods to obtain convictions: https://text.hrw.org/report/2018/01/09/dark-side/secret-origins-evidence-us-criminal-cases

Combining dragnet surveillance with device hacking is intended in the design of both tools. Hence, State Department-funded Signal dupes you into handing over your identity as part of the population-centric mapping. In custody, your phone will be hacked when it is taken away if it's important.

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[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 17 points 4 days ago (3 children)

What evidence do you have that Signal collects anything? Traffic logs from the app or something?

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Signal doesn't need to, you need to trust the whole chain. You'll need to trust AWS, you need to trust Intel SGX, etc

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

At that point you can rely on nothing but Tor or I2P

Nothing else hides metadata better than Signal, without involving large networks of independent nodes that participate in Sybil resistant routing. The only thing that gets close is threshold schemes where you still need multiple independent entities running servers.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 1 points 3 days ago

The phrase "E2E encryption" definitionally means it applies when you don't trust whole chain.

[–] rezz@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone -5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Phone numbers havent been required for at least like a year or so

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago

That isn't true. You still need a phone number to sign up.

[–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

Hm now I wonder what to do about that, as they have had my number for a while now.

[–] mistermodal@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago

Do they let you sign up purely with username and password? Or do they make you use insecure email?