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The latest changes implemented in the Systemd repo, related to or prompted by age-verification laws, have made many people unhappy (I suppose links about this aren't necessary). This has led to a surge in Systemd forks during the last days ("surge" because there have always been plenty of forks). Here are some forks that explicitly mention those changes as their reason for forking (rough time ordering taken from the fork page):

Hopefully the energy of this reaction won't be scattered among too many alternatives, although some amount of scattering is always good.

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[–] fierysparrow89@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Maybe they will, but this is beside the point. Regardless the forks, look at the wider response. I can't imagine Linux users will accept this, not because of any thechnical impact or systemd haters hating. This is people actively preparing to make a stand against enshittification and techbros funded legistlation.

[–] gtrcoi@programming.dev -2 points 1 day ago

I'm not concerned with the wider response, I'm concerned with this specific response to systemd which isn't motivated by any noble goal. These unwashed simpletons have coalesced into a smelly mob that needs to be quarantined. Maybe we can find a way to herd the sheep towards the thing they are actually mad at, but until that finally makes it through their thick skulls I'm fine with mocking them.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Why?

What is so bad about having a optional age field for user storage? This isn't age verification just a optional age box.

[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

It is a psychological reaction. The amount of digital surveillance has massively increased in the last couple years. US has just started, as you probably know too, discussing the possibility of adding mandatory age checks to any device connecting to the internet (that might fail due to its infeasibility, but that is another issue). So is this reaction really that surprising? People are afraid that this might be the first of a series of changes that make it more surveillance friendly, such as actual age verification. Indeed incremental changes would probably be the only feasible way one can turn something like systemd surveillance friendly. Even leaving everything aside, this is singularly the worst possible time to suggest such a change to the level that I would almost look for malintent.

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What is the point of it? If the are doesn't cryptographically trace to the right birth certificate for who is at the keyboard now it won't do anything - kids will lie about age if there is any issues. If it does trace back that well there are huge privacy problems.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago

None of that is being considered here

The PR in question just adds a age field. It is optional but some people expressed a usecase for it so it got merged. If you don't see a point it can be safely ignored.