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Revolt, a new privacy-friendly OPEN SOURCE messaging app. - Thoughts?

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 years ago (3 children)

This really needs a comparison chart. Also I really wish they just made a Matrix client instead of starting their own protocol. They claim that they will implement a Matrix bridge but that seems like a lot of effort compared to just using Matrix.

And most importantly. I want security information. Is this end-to-end encrypted?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 years ago (2 children)

I've actually been in the REVOLT community for a while and currently there is no end-to-end encryption since it is in very early alpha, but they have confirmed that they will implement end-to-end encryption by default.

[–] TheAgeOfSuperboredom 3 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Cool!

Is it federated, or is that something planned? Are they planning anything to differentiate from Matrix or the other proprietary chats (Discord, Slack, etc.)? Matrix and Element are becoming more and more usable all the time, so I'm curious to see how this one compares.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 children)

REVOLT is basically trying to become Discord but privacy friendly. They're looking to implement everything that Discord has and mimic the same layout for usability.

Regarding federation, they have no plans for such a thing, they built it without federation in mind.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 years ago (2 children)

Then its dead in the water IMO. Why would ppl want to switch to something built without federation or encryption.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 years ago

I don't know if you read the entire thread but it is in early alpha. As of the time of writing, there is no way for you to sign up. You can apply to become an alpha tester and even then, it is clearly stated that it should be purely used for just that: alpha testing.

They won't roll out a stable release for mass adoption without end-to-end encryption.

A Discord replica with privacy in mind is a great idea for mass adoption as recommending it and getting people to switch over would be the easiest thing in the world since it functions exactly like Discord which people are already familiar with.

Federation is preferred but is not a must to have a successful privacy friendly alternative. It might be a deal breaker for you, but for most people out there, it's not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 children)

Also I really wish Matrix just made a XMPP client instead of starting their own protocol. They claim that they will implement a XMPP bridge but that seems like a lot of effort compared to just using XMPP.

There fixed that for you :D

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 years ago

Fair point. But at least they have documented reasons why they think Matrix is the better approach: https://matrix.org/faq/#what-is-the-difference-between-matrix-and-xmpp%3F