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Is their any alternative to cloud flare (lemmy.ml)

submitted 4 years ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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is their any alternative to cloudflare that will keep web scrapers knowing my native ips aswell not caring about the content, the kind of service that would host lulzsec

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 years ago (1 children)

IDK, but this seems highly unrealistic as a future development (given the experience with such mesh networks in the past).

But what we will probably see is the ugly sister of it: nationalized networks with great firewalls similar to how China does it. They (or at least proposals) seem to be popping up everywhere these days and at least to some extend offer some of the advantages you describe above.

What really sucks about them is that while right now the Chinese internet might not offer much interesting content for foreigners, but once everyone does it, you will have severely degraded browsing utility, especially if you try it from a smaller non-aligned country. A first taste of it can already be seen if browsing the net from a 3rd world country ISP that somehow got marked as a spam source, lots of websites block you outright and many others force you through an near unlimited number of reCaptcha challenges (similar to how it is when browsing with Tor). Cloudflare is part of that problem of course, and I wouldn't be surprised if in a few years they will be the US equivalent to the great firewall of China (technically different but with similar effect).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago)

Well,, it would depends a lot on how much of an inconvenience to use the public internet if Great Firewall of USA is made and people then look for an alternative in droves. Let's say hypothetically, the Internet usage become extremely politicized to a point that literally anything you say can make you liable like giving a bad advice, outright ban on political discussion (I'm not seeing this yet since the discussions that are banned are the one that is inciting violence but this is one of the worry people have), de-anonymizing people such as YouTube forcing people to use real name on their website or an outright ban on vices that people enjoy.

It's probably unrealistic today, but we can observe where the trends are heading and can speculate where we might end up using to work around that negative future. Hence why I said to take my comment with a grain of salt.