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So Protonmail / ProtonVPN is not a good option? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 4 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I'm trying to get rid of my Google dependency and one of those steps was moving over to Protonmail. Now in the past few days i have been picking up signals that even Protonmail is not as clean as it might be.

Does this really impact the privacy of how i use email and so is moving to Protonmail a step forward from Google, or is Protonmail just as bad?

If so, what could be alternatives?

edit:

Some of the alternatives being mentioned in the comments are:

Email:

VPN:

edit 2 (2023):

There seems to be some new activity around this post. At the time of writing the post (2 years ago) there were some stories going as user @UnfortunateShort described in their comment. This made me question the best options available at that moment. Currently i am still a Proton user, using their Mail and Calendar service, and Mullvad for VPN.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 years ago (2 children)

I would suggest you Disroot and Riseup for e-mail and Riseup for VPN.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 years ago (1 children)

Both those organisations have been around for quite some time right? Having their roots in activism as far as i know.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago) (1 children)

The way you seems to use the word "activism" seems a bad sense I never knew. What do you mean?

The Riseup political views are known and suggested, sometimes, in their own page.

The case of Disroot is that it has a public statement about it basically and the pictures around the website are quite legit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 years ago (1 children)

The way you seems to use the word “activism” seems a bad sense I never knew. What do you mean?

It was in no way meant as a bad thing, sorry if it came over that way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 years ago (1 children)

Thank you for the reply.

I don't know if the second part of my reply helped you in some sense. At least the Disroot side which can be checked easily.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 years ago

It did! Disroot has a huge mission statement where it is all written out, so that can't be more clear than that. (i'll also add them to the original posting as options for people in the future).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago

I tend to use riseup all time , for VPN , mails , file transfer , pads etc.. i find that their views are very clearly exposed and like their politics , but should we be concern about the fact that their servers are US based ( heard some args this)? Also id like to have details about how RiseupVPN is working , and if all traffic go throug or just part , for example does it really take in charge P2P /torrent ? ( real question is can i use it to protect from Hadopi ? ) . Also the service is based on donations so dont forget to give what you can so they can continue to offer free pricing vpn to us :)