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I like checking out new communities and instances as they pop up. I can't remember a single one that was created under the banner of "free speech" that didn't just turn into a gross space. I'm not saying it's not possible. I'm just saying that in my experience "free speech" is code for far-right abuse geared to the most vulnerable people in society. If I see a community that has "free speech" as their main point, I take that as a sign to avoid it. Then a while later I hear about how some far right group is active there.
Fully agree, free speech is just code for hate speech at this point. We have dozens of examples of "free speech" havens full of bigots, and literally zero examples of a "free speech" community that isn't dominated by hate speech.
I don't really agree with you
I don't think what you're describing is gross
So you think that abusing vulnerable people in society is okay?
Don't think its objectively bad
aaaand that's a ban.
I'm not sure if it is a good idea in the long run to swing the ban hammer so quickly.
Most previous Reddit alternatives have quickly turned into extremist communities. And what all of them had in common, was that they wanted to maximize free speech and minimize moderation.
The Lemmy devs are trying hard to avoid that for this Lemmy instance by sending a strong message of what's okay and what's not.
And I really don't think, that is a problem. Anyone can host their own instance where they can welcome the extremists with open arms. Or they can join one of the many existing Reddit alternatives. If this one instance is different from all of the rest, that's the smallest problem.
Implying lemmy is not extremist community rofl
With posts like "Belarus protests are NATO propaganda" on the front-page we kinda joined the "reddit extremist clones" club already.
Most definitely. Lemmy is already becoming a bit of a meme whenever it pops up in other discussions like Hacker News or Reddit because of this. If mods would stay away from actually "contributing" to this instance Lemmy would have been in a much better shape right now.
It's also becoming a bit of an echo chamber especially with "lemmy council" or whatever just being spineless yes-men noodles that had absolutely nothing of notable value done since their introduction and just brigade posts with votes...
That being said it's kinda moot to discuss it on a dev server. Lets just chill, enjoy the popcorn and wait for the real show to start at some point!