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Is Google Locking Down Chrome to Resist the Rise of Chromium Based Browsers? (news.itsfoss.com)

submitted 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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The inherent problem with creating a new browser/platform is getting people to create addons/extensions for it.

If you don’t think Google could do this, think again. Google has an iron grip on the Chromium project.

From the beginning of its time with Google, Android was touted as THE open-source phone operating system. The Android Open Source Project was used by several projects to create their own version of Android.

Then at a certain point, Google introduced an app called Google Play Services. This app is not open source and contains all of the stuff you need to access Google’s services.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 years ago (1 children)

I am afraid that Gemini is not the answer in this case. Gemini is not supposed to replace the Web, it is supposed to coexist along the Web, meant for different use cases. One couldn't host Lemmy on Gemini for example. If we want to find an alternative, we would need to look elsewhere, as far as I know.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago) (2 children)

Yes, it is just another reason to use gemini, not as a replacement but as an option keep paths open outside the garden walls. You could mirror lemmy on gemini like this lobsters example gemini://typed-hole.org/lobsters/lobsters.gemini

https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/typed-hole.org/lobsters/lobsters.gemini

But yes, it seems we still need a browser for most things.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 years ago (1 children)

How do I use Gemini? it seems intresting

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago) (1 children)

there’s a community /c/gemini with some basic information

For starters, you can visit gemini sites through the browser at https://portal.mozz.us

and there is a list of clients (and servers) here:

https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/gemini.circumlunar.space/software/

on iOS I use deedum and on laptop lagrange

some android people can probably recommend a good app and command-line enthusiasts probably have good cli options

here is a another list of resources: https://github.com/kr1sp1n/awesome-gemini

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago)

Deedum works on Android too, but there are many other applications if necessary, e.g. Ariane.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago (1 children)

I agree. This is exactly what was missing in my reply and I should have thought about that. Having an option to escape walled gardens is just as important, even if for example Gemini is not sufficient to replace the modern Web entirely.

You could mirror lemmy on gemini

Ye, but not communicate easily, allow multiple users to post etc. In general, if I am not mistaken, the problem with Gemini would be its passive, read-only nature from the point of view of a capsule's visitor (not creator).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago) (1 children)

In terms of interactivity, I need to look more into this bliz. I don’t know what it is capable of, but maybe some limited form of a comment section could be implemented

Bliz is an extension to text files to allow interpolated shell scripting - in this case, the fish shell. Of course, the shell can call any other program to embed content from.

It's intended to be used to generate gemtext dynamically, but it can just as easily generate any kind of text file.

https://lemmy.ml/post/52524

bliz: Incredibly easy, interpolated server-side scripting for Gemini

https://sr.ht/~cadence/bliz/

example of submitting a search: https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/gus.guru/search%3Flemmy

more on cgi: https://github.com/makeworld-the-better-one/gemlikes

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago)

OK, that seems interesting. Maybe Gemini could be capable of even more than I anticipated then. Will have to look into that.