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Climate change won’t wait for future innovation — we need action now (www.nature.com)

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

honestly I agree, back then with nuclear etc we could have done it already. Nowadays the situation is different:

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/solar-pv-prices :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levelized_cost_of_energy :

Wind and solar are king imo.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The best argument for conventional nuclear back in the day was that it was a stopgap to reduce fossil fuels while renewable technologies mature in the future.

Well,

The future is now, old man meme

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There is an argument for small nuclear reactors to produce heat for running in existing former coal plants though. Reutilizing existing infrastructure is way faster than building new long distance power lines and battery storage facilities.

Still a transitional technology though...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

You could do the same with biomass though, which can actually be a permanent technology because it in itself is both renewable and carbon neutral.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Where should all that biomass come from? Farming and transporting all that probably consumes almost as much energy as you gain out of it afterwards.

Biomass is a nice niche powersource when used at sites with some surplus waste resource, but I think using it at scale has been thoroughly shown to do more harm than good by now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Geothermal is especially good for heat though. For energy yes I agree.

EDIT: Clarity

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

I wonder how much that lowering of the cost of solar panels comes from increased exploitation of labor and nature (through harmful industrialized mining operations)