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[–] [email protected] 127 points 11 months ago (7 children)

That's because there's no reason for most people to buy another TV. The majority of people who would want one already have a TV, and there has been no technological advancement in the last decade or two that would entice anyone to throw away their already perfectly acceptable large LCD/OLED/whatever television just to buy another one just like it.

The only thing anyone has been able to come up with is making all TV's internet connected and "smart," which is a feature that approximately nobody except the MBA's in charge of the companies cranking them out seems to actually want.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This. Nowadays people mostly buy TVs when their old ones break. There's no marginal improvement. The industry is here to stay, but its high growth days are in the past.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

We have also seen the budget range improve in quality and affordability. There will always be cheap junk TVs and overly expensive TVs, but that midrange, where most people buy, has become rock solid. There just isn’t much region to upgrade at the moment.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

And we've mostly hit the limit of usable maximum sizes. For like the last two decades you could upgrade your TV to the next bigger size every few years for the same money you paid for the last one.
I remember starting with a maybe... 21" LCD TV back in 2005ish, and for that money today I could get like 70" TV. I don't have space to fit one that large, nor do I have any need for it even if I could.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Actually, a LOT of people stream with a smart TV instead of a separate device. More than half in the US.

https://gitnux.org/smart-tv-sales-statistics/

This tends to track with what I see in my family and friend’s homes. People tend to do couch streaming via the smart TV’s apps.

Personally, I think a fast, separate HDMI CEC device is a MUCH better user experience, and it’s still one remote. But for whatever reason, a lot of people aren’t opting to go with a separate AppleTV, GoogleTV ChromeCast, Roku, game console, etc.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

But do they use it because it’s there, or do they actually go out and buy a TV because of the smart features? I’d much rather have a separate device (and do) than use the built in smart features. I would greatly prefer to buy a TV with no smart features and just continue using my AppleTV than have to buy a new TV every time the built in system stopped getting updates.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Upgraded my £200 dumb LCD to a £1000 OLED 3 years ago. My wife much prefers the simplicity and reliability of the TV remote and inbuilt smart features over separate devices. It's all personal preference

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

We were that way as well for a few years. Then the updates cause the sluggishness of the internal processor to become apparent… and then the updates stop completely. An internal smart system can’t be upgraded, external ones can. Not to mention that the HDMI spec will auto start the TVs and put it to the right input automatically when you turn in a connected device.

[–] corsicanguppy 1 points 10 months ago

There was a time when people were buying the smart TV because Netflix and Apple were then apps on the TV and used the same remote.

But the apps are old and crunchy, the tv shovels ads at you, and the steamers are no longer offering the value required to make smart TVs a prime consolidation target.

I am looking forward to the contraction of the market and a shift back to "just a TV with 4 HDMIs" models. No tuners even.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

The one thing I disagree with is the technological advancement. I feel like there has been advancement, but the problem is the cost of those advancements. No one is pining to drop thousands/tens of thousands of dollars on OLED, Micro-led, or whatever the hell else they have come out with over the years. On top of that the crappy interfaces of these TV's as well as privacy problems. See the recent roku debacle.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Yep, this here. I have a 10 year old tv and was considering buying a new one last year but it just didn’t seem worth the price for the upgrade.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

people do want smart features on tvs.

they just dont want ads or the privacy nightmare tvs are.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

OLED TVs have not been around for two decades.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Pretty damn close to it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_XEL-1

It took a little longer for them to become mainstream. But even so, an ordinary LCD screen is perfectly acceptable to most people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

More people living at home with parents of roommates, probably mean fewer TVs being sold.