this post was submitted on 30 Dec 2020
33 points (100.0% liked)

Fediverse

20705 readers
38 users here now

A community dedicated to fediverse news and discussion.

Fediverse is a portmanteau of "federation" and "universe".

Getting started on Fediverse;

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
[email protected]
[email protected]
33
Out of curiosity, why do you guys think the Fediverse is still not taking off? (lemmy.ml)
submitted 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
65 comments fedilink hide all child comments
 

I've thought about it a bit and the Fediverse has been around for a while now. There are some really cool applications being made to replace the mainstream ones, but they just aren't taking off.

Why do you guys think that might be? Ease of use? Addiction to the mainstream platforms? Lack of marketing?

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 years ago (1 children)

Also, I think you’re conflating issues - when you’re saying you don’t want the commercial content, but then complain about the Peertube content being of generally lower production value, where do you think all the snazzy production value comes from?

I don't want algorithmic ads rolling in the middle of a person's sentence, or above every video on index pages like on YouTube. That's what I mean when I said I don't want commercial content. There's a difference in Hollywood production values (or even professional YouTuber production) and what's on PeerTube. I don't need huge budget production, I'd just like to see something a little nicer than hobbyists with phone/laptop cameras/mics. Look at the podcasting space. Most of the shows I've listened to started by new podcasters at least had decent mics and knew to record in a closet to dampen outside sound.

But there's no reason for people to put in that level of effort if they're just doing it for fun. And nobody is going to spend time/money to add even that tiny bit of production if they're not going to see any kind of return on it. I don't want to see YouTube recreated; I don't want to see PeerTube millionaires, but people should be able to make a decent earning.

the platform paying the creator shouldn’t be all that necessary, as, from my layman’s understanding of things, those ‘content creators’ have a variety of income sources, Youtube income is pretty small for some.

Right. They get most of their money from sponsorships, but you can't get sponsorships on a platform with no viewership.

[–] kinetix 3 points 4 years ago (1 children)

I don’t want algorithmic ads rolling in the middle of a person’s sentence, or above every video on index pages like on YouTube. That’s what I mean when I said I don’t want commercial content.

I would then ask to please say what you mean: 'ads' or 'intrusive ads' or whatever it is you actually mean - the content is the thing you're watching, not necessarily the intrusive ads, and on Youtube I'd argue most of what you'll find and/or see promoted these days is commercial (for profit). It's mostly commercial content.

Right. They get most of their money from sponsorships, but you can’t get sponsorships on a platform with no viewership.

I'd argue that's not the platform's fault. Viewers can and will follow people and can and will discover things on a variety of platforms. YouTube is a behemoth now, but one doesn't have to be too old to remember that it didn't exist not too long ago.

TikTok wasn't much of a thing mere months ago. Zoom was in very few people's lingo for several years until the media had a pandemigasm all over it.

How much advertising budget has the fediverse got? 0? So, could take time for it to explode in to the hearts and minds of people like commercial platforms do. Yes, there's plenty of refinements that could be had and done for user experience, but I don't think, aside from app knowledge/availability, these are preventing people from 'migrating'.