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The whole internet loves Kagi, a lovely paid search engine that can find things! 5 seconds later We regret to inform you the CEO is an unhinged narcissist who will harangue you in email (hackers.town)

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[–] phoenixz 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Why terrible?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

you’re right

the other poster was most likely trying to stir up shit given we’re on a federated network (see also their other post), but I have been obsessed with the idea of a federated search engine this weekend

it’s definitely a worthwhile idea, but anything that does federated indexing will have to deal with moderation and abuse prevention first. those are hard problems in ordinary federated networks, but search engines specifically are targets of hostile SEO and spam in ways that few other systems are. those aren’t insurmountable problems though — just ones that need to be solved before federation is practical.

[–] phoenixz 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I dunno. Google is currently overwhelmed by SEO optimized crap (at least I guess so, I stopped using it years ago because of that) and I think a federated system where members have different prioritizations would make SEO optimization very very hard to abuse.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I hope so! this is something I’d like to implement, once I’ve got some free deployment resources and time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Because what are you gaining from a federated search? It makes sense for social media where different instances can specialize in their own topics. How does it make sense for search? What is the benefit of federating a search engine? Will each instance specialize in some specific type of search?

If I run a search are you going to query the federated network? If not then what is the point of federating? If so, how are you going to make it perform and how will you make search results consistent and reproducible?

So far I’ve seen no explanation for how end users benefit from a federated search. It’s just a buzzword that techbros like because of the fediverse.

[–] phoenixz 1 points 10 months ago

Because then the results would no longer be modified / pushed by the CEO du jour. It would truly give me honest and reliable results. That's why. See Reddit as an example in social media, but the point stands.