Up until about a month ago, I thought lemmy.ml was plenty welcoming to people on the left that weren't tankies. Since Russia's invasion of Ukraine, that's changed. The anarkiddie jokes get old really, really fast.
this post was submitted on 28 Mar 2022
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Yeah I'm not even anarchist or anarchist-leaning but it got old ages ago
On a side note, we would also like to help with the creation of a general-purpose instance that is less focused on politics than most of the existing instances.
My intention with sopuli.xyz was to create a general-purpose instance with no specific political leaning.
I see, you make a good point. Your instance has been running for a year, but received very few users compared to lemmy.ml. My guess is that you receive new users mainly via join-lemmy.org/instances, is that correct? The problem is that most people only look at the top 2-4 instances, as you can see in the stats (removed everything thats not a Lemmy instance).
Problem is, that list is sorted by most popular and strongly favors established instances. I think it would help a lot of we put 2-4 "recommended instances" at the top of that page, particularly small or general-purpose instances like yours. It would also be pretty simple to have different recommendations for each language, which should help regional instances. There could be a sort of tag system as well, but thats a bit more effort to implement. What do you think?
Eventually I can add a tag / filtering type thing like joinmastodon does... especially for different language instances. But I think just sorting that page by popularity is pry fine for now tho. Joinlemmy is not the bottleneck IMO.
The main issue is that communities are already on reddit or elsewhere, and they need to actively choose to migrate to lemmy. That often takes the moderators / admins of those communities doing that work, and bringing over a large chunk of users. That's how the largest lemmy instances got to where they are, and there's no way around that.
Based on that screenshot, there are about 400 users per week who visit a Lemmy instance via join-lemmy.org. Thats a pretty significant number, and it likely contributes a large part of the new signups on lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml.
My guess is that you receive new users mainly via join-lemmy.org/instances, is that correct?
I haven't really done promotion for my instance so that is correct.
I think it would help a lot of we put 2-4 "recommended instances" at the top of that page, particularly small or general-purpose instances like yours. It would also be pretty simple to have different recommendations for each language, which should help regional instances. There could be a sort of tag system as well, but thats a bit more effort to implement. What do you think?
That would be magnificent!
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I applied for the political instance, but given that sopuli.xyz is already established I would prefer that. I would be happy to help out in any way possible if wanted.
That explains a lot. I thought all of lemmy was communist but it seems like that only applies to lemmygrad. Dunno who would want a lib lemmy instance when Reddit exists tho
Maybe because the liberals are still people who deserve some rights as the promoted ones by Free Software?
Some other people could also have fell in an ending loop towards Reddit interaction and common nonFLOSS media because of some people they follow.
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Clarifying to avoid any misunderstanding with the first parragraph: I disagree with them and I don't tolerate what they do and what they promote but that doesn't mean that I am going to remove their rights as individuals.
Fair enough
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Reddit has had some issues with moderation lately. They have this unit, "Anti-Evil Operations", that has been going over moderators' heads to delete comments. They've been taking sides in some hot button political issues in the US, which has left the political debate sub I moderate in the uncomfortable spot of just banning those issues entirely. Their actions and decisions have been mostly opaque to moderators.
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what about an instance for porn or sex-workers?
I feel like hosting that is a lot more risky legally especially on such a small platform compared to say reddit or pornhub. Probably best for them to not have anything to do with people hosting porn, I'm not sure on the details of the law though.
Yeah, my impression is that platforms for mature content have been running into that problem time and time again. The potential for child abuse content and revenge porn is high, and much of the remaining content is pirated. Policing all of that is expensive and sometimes scarring. Having volunteers do that sounds unlikely.
We're not going to host anything like that for you.
And also lemmy.ml wouldn't federate with any instance like that due to the high legal risks involved.
Idk, I'd rather have an open platform that welcomes all good faith argument makers from all the side. But this is lemmy and it's open for everyone, so do whatever anyone would like to do.
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Really? Liberals have enough soap boxes, they can surely pay for another if they want it.
I do dig the idea of more general purpose instances tho, as long as they keep up on spam mitigation.
One of the criticisms that has sometimes been brought up against Lemmy is that it is just for "tankies" (which is not true, but they see the biggest instance described as "a community of leftist privacy and FOSS enthusiasts", that contrary to all other social networks doesn't label communists and other people as being part of a dangerous violent extremist movement; and the second biggest instance whose icon is the picture of a literal tank with red background, and a title that is a play on Leningrad and Lemmy). I therefore think that promoting diversity among instances in actions like these is a good idea.
This is merely a product of people not being aware of / understanding federation.
And the fact that the software and flagship instance have the same name adds to it.
Yeah true, but I think we should also take into account the people that lack understanding of the concept of federation (maybe some kind of tag system on join-lemmy in the future like PeerTube has? And maybe randomized instances by default?)
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- Less work for the Lemmy.ml admins (which leaves more room for development)
- Increases the size of the Lemmy federation
- Brings new leaders who will independently work towards Lemmy moving forward
Oh, that's why world news was so lib. I'll be honest I don't understand how federation works, it seems complicated. Like multiple websites are latched on to one Reddit like service?
federation works like emails do
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I would even support creating a centrist or right-leaning (non-extremist) instance to help de-radicalize the conservative sphere
Oh man, I would like to, but I don't have the technical knowledge
There is no technical knowledge necessary. After one year for the hosting yes, but by then there should be some users with the knowledge and willingness to help.
Just giving my opinion for the other offering.
It would be great to see a Furry instance. :3c
Updated: a vegan one for organization, teaching and learning would be great too.
I too would like a vegan one, especially run by the ppl who run /r/vegancirclejerk. If you want to reach out to them I'd be glad to set one up for them.
rip /r/dogdiet
never forget o7
enough reddit censorship 😎
Do you think you can contact with them?
However, I am mostly interested in teaching and educational activism.
I think some people don't like Fur community ;-;.
Why don't liberals just spin up their own instance? Wasn't that the point of making the code base open?
That's the idea, I think this is just an offer to temporarily host it to see if it attracts sufficient users to transfer to dedicated hosting funded by the users later on.
Unfortunately they still just prefer to stay on reddit, and none have wanted to do the very small amount of work to set up their own instance.
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