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My Mother hired a licensed electrician to install 1 ethernet drop in her home office. She already had a preexisting tp-link setup in the basement. She showed me the invoice today which totaled $958.00! I'm shocked and disgusted. Feels like they took advantage of my Mother.

I told my Mother to call them first thing tomorrow morning to see if they possibly made a mistake. If not, I advised her to never do business with that company again. This seems like highway robbery. Is there anything else she can do?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I knew a friend of a friend who used to do tons of Ethernet drops at a hospital, which he stopped doing and does office IT work nowadays. When I bought a house, I asked him for his rate per drop. I paid $1500 for 13 Ethernet drops, and he even brought/sold to me a $200 switch panel (likely barely used hospital gear that was being thrown out) for $50. He also installed and labeled all my drops.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Im sorry this happened, overapaid a lot, but In my mind this sounds like:

-Do you want to get scammed

+yes dear

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Even for job that takes 10 hours I would only charge 500

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I would never hire an electrician to do low voltage, I would find someone who specializes specifically with Ethernet wiring, like in Minnesota I used Correct Cabling.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I typically tell people to expect $200-$250 per drop location. I usually specify location because running 1, 2, 4, 6, etc wires to the same location is the same amount of work. Obviously cost of materials increases a bit, but not by much unless they're long runs.

Considering OP said there is drop ceiling in the basement, that makes this a TON easier. I would have quoted $250 for the single run, and offered to run two cables.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The typical price for a business that had drop ceilings and drywall is $150-$300 depending on number of drops ordered. A single drop is barely worth the materials to deploy a tech.

Using that understanding doing it in a house will easily add $250 for the headaches that can happen. So knowing it is $300 and then a possible $250. $900 seems reasonable in the aspect of they have to make money and they have to make sure that sending the tech is worth doing. She got a quote that was the "I don't want to take this job" price.

Think about it like this. If you were to tell me that you would pay me $50 to come make you a pot of coffee plus all of my travel and materials. That job to me is not worth it. However if you told me you would pay me $500 plus travel and materials. That job becomes worth doing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Where? India?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Working for a uk university, a sparky would charge £200/hr for electrical work. For a data cabler, it would be about the same. If I was having hundreds of data points done, I would budget for £50 a cable.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I mean she signed off on the work right? I over quote jobs that wouldn’t be worth my time if I didn’t charge more. They never have to accept the quote

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Would need to see the invoice.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only reason I can think it would be expensive is if it was a really complicated run. But seems way too much.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They said drop ceiling in basement and it was first floor. So basically drilling up through the floor into the wall in first floor. Super easy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

“Super Easy” you never say that till you’re done with the job. You say or think that going in and you’re most likely fucked. “Oh this is gonna be super easy”. 8hrs later you wanna burn the building down and run around the town naked screaming at the top of your lungs. Congratulations you’ve just gone insane. Haha

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Lol you sound just like my coworker!

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That’s crazy my price is $120/drop and that’s platedwall fished and tested

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

What does "platedwall" mean?

I asked above if the price included drywall work for the outlet box.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

and that’s platedwall fished

I'm going to assume this means a wall plate and jack?

As opposed to the Verizon installer who just drilled a hole through my house, ran a wire from the ONT up to the 2nd floor, and put a large knot on the inside to keep it from falling back through..... *sigh*

Didn't even strap the cable or anything, it's just out there flopping.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

$120/drop no matter what? That doesn't sound professional at all. Some jobs require cutting and patching drywall. Some jobs require a concrete core drill through commercial building walls/ceilings. Some jobs require hours of fishing through crawl spaces and attics.

You really going to spend 6+ hours and still charge "$120/drop" for 1 drop?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Residential is usually more expensive than business and usually companies won't do residential if they're big.

It's been a few years since I got quotes, but generally it was $250 per run and those runs would be run to their max length with slack if needed. Or at least that's what I requested 90 m for every run spool it up in the ceiling.

It can take a lot of work to run cable and residential because of things like fire blocks and other unforeseen circumstances.

But this seems very high to me.

Tip: if you ever pay someone to run ethernet and you need a single drop pay for two.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Was it a fixed price quote or t&m estimate?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You will pay $1000 any time someone shows up at your house to do anything.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That’s insanely overpriced. But I think the first mistake is getting an electrician instead of a low voltage tech.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This.

I ended up teaching an electrician how to do the job right when they came to do some warranty work on a new home. I couldn't believe what the guy didn't know.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This right here. Might not be an overcharge for an electrician depending on the details of the cable run - but a low voltage guy would have done it for 1/3 of that. Opportunity dollars matter

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Everyone in this group says this, but I live in a small to medium city (metropolitan area population just over a million) and I could not find a “low voltage electrician” anywhere. Called tons of people. Closest I could find (who wasn’t just a normal electrician) was a computer repair guy who said “I suppose I could do some runs but I’m not a network guy” and a high end home theater shop that point blank told me it wasn’t worth their time unless I bought a multi thousand dollar home automation system from them.

So how exactly do I find a low voltage tech? Cause Google didn’t work. I suppose there must be a bunch of people who work the commercial side but it was near impossible to find anyone who did residential.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had the exact same experience.

Found companies that advertised residential networking and they were like, "Yeah, we do it as part of a new build with full automation."

Ended up having to do it myself.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

that's a lot, but it feels like the price reflects the cost the dude would normally make that day

a single ethernet run for an electrician is usually a waste of their time tbh

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Of course it’s a rip off but she could have gotten any schmuck from Craigslist to do it for like $100 + materials lol. I mean if it’s drop ceiling, shit I’d do that for $200

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Paid a fair price don’t call the business.

Yes, you’re right it’s a steep price, but that’s the cost for a professional.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If you and or your north hired someone with out an estimate ahead of time I’m surprised they didn’t charge you triple that for being stupid.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I spent that to have my whole house set up for Ethernet and the guy set up a ubiquiti network for me

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The jack cost 1$ the cable path cost the rest check that out

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I paid a cabling guy $300 to run 2 Cat 6 cables from my downstairs to upstairs. They fished it into the basement, then up into a closet, into the upstairs, floor and into the wall and mounted on both floors on wall jacks.

I wouldn't hire an electrician to do that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This isn’t a ridiculous price. Might be slightly high but not highway robbery.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

More than slightly imo. Of course we don’t know how long of a run this was. But for a single Ethernet drop by itself anything over 250-300 to start is price gouging in my book.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I get billed out at between 120 and 150 per hour as a home automation guy, from the time I start traveling to the jobsite until I leave. This might take me an hour and be only 30 mins from the shop so it could be in the 200 range. It could also be over an hour drive from the shop with tons of unforeseen obstacles. Things like definitely have the potential to turn into a handful of hours even though it looked like one hour on paper.

So yes, even having the proper guy for the job (never an electrician) do this type of task could turn into this type of quote. There’s no knowing if it was truly highway robbery without more info.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Shit. Take me 2 hours. 1000 bucks like that, in the wrong job.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If it was 2 wall fish and 30-40 ft through a drop ceiling. I know a few companies that would do it for ~$100

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Should have been no more than $200 I would charge around 100 in my market.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

How long was the installer there for ?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Did that include drywall work and painting?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Am LV tech - I don't do resi but with a drop ceiling it's about the same.

Cat6 drop is $285, all in.

Sparky billed her for learning how to terminate it 🤣

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I had pretty much every light switch and receptacle (minus the 3 I did myself) replaced in my house by two electricians 4 years ago. They charged me $400 and I was pretty happy with that. This seems excessive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I may reconsider my choice not to do residential stuff if this is what they are willing to pay.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

$500 van roll fee on top of some pricy work. Maybe that was the minimum

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was a data cabler at the start of my career.

Residential is the worst. Dwangs in walls. Cable runs are always a bitch. And even if you have a drop its not guaranteed to fit or feed another cable, and usually not easily. Many walls will have to be surface mounted blocks with capping. House ceilings suck.

Most offices have suspended ceilings , hollow walls / partitions . Built in cable ducts and catenarys. etc etc

I did exactly 4 residential jobs. Lol.

And dozens and dozens of commercial buildings.

Not in the US but this seems high-ish. But I know lots of people would feel this sort of job is seldom worth the petrol or stress.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How was the pay for residential data cabling?

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