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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 years ago (2 children)

Nothing of value was lost with Facebook. Not sure about Telegram but if they need to stop western propaganda from ruining their country, it is what it is.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 years ago (1 children)

The main goal is to stop people from organizing. Besides, if the revolution is strong enough, surely it can survive the people being exposed to competing ideas?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 years ago (1 children)

You underestimate how much anti-left propaganda the West pumps out

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Perhaps. But I also have observed how quickly governments that are struggling to contain protests resort to disrupting the Internet to interrupt organization efforts. As for propaganda, no amount of seed will give you a harvest if there's no soil to grow it in. Treating the people like little children that must be protected from dangerous ideas that would lead them astray strikes me as a sign of intellectual weakness.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 years ago

Sanctions, imposed by the U.S. is the soil.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 years ago (1 children)

If they need to resort to censorship to keep their ideas popular, maybe they aren't that great after all

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 children)

The most powerful Western countries have and still do resort to censorship to keep their ideas popular. The Red Scare for example, which technically never ended since communist parties are still likely illegal in the US ("likely" because the law is ambiguous but I can't imagine the courts will just say it's fine if it ever went to a hearing). Communist parties have also recently been banned in Germany and Poland.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 years ago

I'm not saying they don't.

If I killed a man, would that make someone else killing a man any more or less okay?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 years ago

Didn’t the U.S create a social network similar to Twitter in the past, to congregate anti-Cuba sentiments, and try to effectively destabilize the country through the use of this social media sillo to organize an unrest there?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

This would fit better in /c/politics imho

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 years ago

I thought telegram was less susceptible to government bans as they were creating new servers for relay when Russia tried to block it.

is that not the case anymore?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago (1 children)

News to me that Cuban's had this level of access anyway. Heartbreaking to hear they're being cut off but history repeats itself, every time there is protest in a country like this the first thing to go is contact with the outside world.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

The ones who can pay the normal internet access or WiFi connection whenever they want.

Time ago, there was a Facebook Messenger bridge to Delta Chat too.

I won't touch the rest of the reply, just wanted to touch that part.