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Written by Kirsten Beyer & Davy Perez

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LoglineReturning to a planet that dredges up tragic memories, Captain Pike and his landing party find themselves forgetting everything, including their own identities as he confronts a ghost from his past.

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[–] Tired8281 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don't understand that dude, needling the dude with no memory who was beating on him, then acting all surprised when that same dude puts a gun on him. Like, what was he trying to do? It seemed like he was trying to get Pike to kill him, but then he wasn't. Wtf?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The way I read the scene was that he was so high off his power that he thought with the tables turned and Pike having no power that he would have the upper hand. But Pike managed to subdue him and High Lord Zacarias was all of a sudden staring down the barrel of a phaser rifle and all of a sudden wasn't so confident that the Pike he knew, who would lower the weapon once the combatant was subdued, was still there. I think the sudden switch was just an "OH shit, what have I done?" moment.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Enjoyed this very much, the tone was very creepy. Reminded me of the psychological horror episodes only TNG really did.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I would link it back to psychological mystery of The Cage and further to its touchstone, the MGM 50s classic Forbidden Planet.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Rigel 7 is literally a callback to The Cage

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Yes, it’s a direct plot reference to the backstory for The Cage.

I was responding to the comment that it’s like TNG psychological episodes, when I see it as in the tradition of Forbidden Planet where an unknown technology or phenomenon is changing brain function so that subconscious or deep behaviours are revealed.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Outside of Pike and Batel's relationship, are there any points in this episode that look to connect to anything else in the currently ongoing plotline in SNW? I didn't really notice anything, it seems like this might be the most standalone episode.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

It's good to see Kirsten Beyer back in the writer's room. It could be her that this episode reminds me of Workforce from VOY where the away team forget about their identities and keep on working for the planet government.

I felt the pacing was a bit rushed at the end and the episode could have given more time to explore the Kalar man's memories and history so his arch is more earned.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I'm primarily curious about Batel's job responsibilities. Her main job seems to be as a JAG officer but she also has a field command on the Cayuga?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

OK, can someone help me out? I had major deja-vu with the scene where Spock tells Ortegas she can't go on the ~~field trip~~ away mission. Wasn't there another episode where Ortegas was about to get to go on an away mission and got told she couldn't at the last minute? Or did I maybe see that scene in a preview or something?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have loved SNW from the get go but I think its great that to me at least every episode has been great. I don't think I have felt meh or bummed out by any singular one so far. Comparing to TNG and DS9 who had quite a few meh episodes. That is great imo

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

I agree, this show has knocked it out the park. It's in the top 3 for me; TNG, DS9, and SNW. The order changes regularly ;)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

oh wow tf was that lol.. didn't know I was signing up for Strange New Worlds: Dementia Simulator..! , great episode!

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