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"So ultimately, I feel like what we’re saying is that in order for Starfleet and that beautiful vision that Roddenberry had of this optimistic utopia, in order for that vision to exist, in order for the light to exist, you need people who operate in the shadows."

Alex Kurtzman continues to prove that he fundamentally does not understand the property that he's helming, yet again making me want to puke

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• “Star Trek: Section 31” is the 14th feature length Star Trek film, and and the first film made specifically for streaming.

    • Other Star Trek films include: “Star Trek: The Final Frontier”, “Star Trek Nemesis” and “Star Trek Into Darkness”.

    • The film was originally announced in 2020 as a series, before being transitioned to a movie in early 2023.

• The film’s title refers to the Section 31 organization first introduced in the DS9 episode, “Inquisition”.

• “Star Trek: Section 31” was directed by Olatunde Osunsanmi, who was the co-showrunner for DIS beginning with season three, and directed several episodes of that series.

• The screenplay was written by Craig Sweeny, who also a consultant on season one of DIS, and co-wrote the teleplay for the episode, “Context is for Kings”.

• Bo Yeon Kim and Erika Lippoldt are credited for the story; they were the going to be the showrunners for the “Section 31” television show, and wrote the pilot.

• The movie opens with a quote from the Greek playwright, Aeschylus. Michael Burnham also quoted Aeschylus in “The Sound of Thunder”.

• In a scene featuring a young mirror universe Phillipa Georgiou, we learn that the emperor of the Terran Empire is chosen via a battle royale of children ”culled from every corner of the Empire.”

    • In “In a Mirror Darkly, Part II”, we saw mirror Hoshi declare herself empress after taking control of the Constitution-class USS Defiant, and demanding Starfleet’s unconditional surrender. Granted, finding a ship from the future of an alternate universe is probably not a reliable enough occurrence to make it the basis of selecting your head of state.

    • In “Mirror Mirror” Kirk encourages mirror Spock to use the Tantalus field to change the course of the Empire, and in “Crossover” it is stated that he became the commander in chief, but he’s never referred to as having been the emperor.

• Georgiou tells her family the candidates for emperor were taken to Terra, implying that the scene takes place elsewhere. We know that the prime universe Georgiou was born in Malaysia, as per “Will You Take My Hand?”. Mirror Georgiou was aware of the fact.

• The character of San was first mentioned his body was seen in Georgiou’s flashbacks in “Scavengers”.

• The sword young Georgiou uses to maim San appears to be same one we saw her wielding later in life in “The Wolf Inside”. Or that one was modelled on this one.

• We learn that the head of Section 31 of the early 24th century apparently goes by Control, which was previously the name of the threat assessment artificial intelligence that went rogue, attempted to gain sentience, and kill all organic life in the galaxy in season two of DIS.

    • Control is portrayed by Jamie Lee Curtis. It’s a big reveal at the end!

    • The name Control originated in the Section 31 novels, “Disavowed” and “Control”, written by David Mack

• Control’s file on mirror universe Georgiou contains clips taken from season one of DIS, as well as the two episode mirror universe interlude in season three. According to Carl, the events of “Terra Firma, Part 1” and “Terra Firma, Part 2” took place in a test, not the actual mirror universe.

• Controls’ file says that Georgiou was brought to the prime universe in 2257, ”but after a few years we lost contact.” The events of season two of DIS take place almost immediately after season one, unless there were ”a few years” between the resolution of the Klingon war, and the USS Discovery setting out from Earth to pick up her new captain on Vulcan in “Will You Take My Hand?”.

• The Treat of Ka’Tann was mentioned in “Fallen Hero”, though it predates the Federation. Presumably the Federation still upholds the treaties established by Vulcan and other member states.

    • According to the map, shown, there are at least five Starfleet starbases on the other side of the border.

• According a chyron, it is stardate 1292.4. Which, if stardates were meant anything would place the film in season one of DIS, between “Battle at the Binary Stars” [stardate 1207.3] and “Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum” [stardate 1308.9]. However, stardates don’t mean anything, and are a mind trap.

    • According to a display in the film, this would take place sometime after 2314, and would be before Rachel Garrett’s death in 2344, as per “Yesterday’s Enterprise”, but there is not much information available to narrow it down beyond that. Alok says he was

• We learn that Georgiou has set herself up as the owner/operator of a space station lounge, the Baraam. A deleted scene from the end of season one of DIS showed Leland recruiting Georgiou to Section 31 in brothel in the Orion district on Qo’noS that she took over.

• The Baraam’s majordomo appears to be from Cheron, which is notable only because according to “Let That Be Your Last Battlefield”, no one was left alive on Cheron falling the conflict between their two cultures. Granted, they are extremely long lived, and warp capable, so it’s entirely possible that Bele and Lokai were not actually the last of their people.

    • Unlike Bele and Lokai, who were both brunette, Virgil’s hair colour is also half black and half white.

• Among the weapons in Georgiou’s office are:

    • A bat’leth - Perhaps notably a TNG style iteration, as opposed to the DIS style

    • A mek’leth - One of the varieties introduced in DIS

    • A Romulan dagger

• Georgiou reveals that she was able to clock all of Alok’s Section 31 agents, as they are not particularly discrete. When they were introduced in “Inquisition”, Sloan, and the other Section 31 agents posed as regular Starfleet officers, with nothing particularly remarkable about them. In “Point of Light”, when Ash Tyler was recruited, he spoke of Section 31 as being something mostly viewed as a rumour among Starfleet officers.

”And since Vulcans never laugh…” We’ve seen Vulcans laugh, such as Sybok in “Star Trek: The Final Frontier”, as well as Tuvok in “Riddles”. Spock is half-human, but we’ve also seen him laugh in “Q&A”, and in “This Side of Paradise”. Granted, in “Riddles” and “This Side of Paradise”, both characters had their faculties compromised.

    • There is a song titled “The Laughing Vulcan and His Dog” mentioned in “Disaster”.

• It’s Rachel Garrett! From Star Trek! Garrett was introduced in “Yesterday’s Enterprise” as the doomed captain of the USS Enterprise C.

• We learn that Fuzz is not actually a Vulcan, but a microscopic being called a Nanokin piloting a robot facsimile of a Vulcan. The crew of the USS Endeavour seen in “The Best Exotic Nanite Hotel” was microscopic, though they were from an alternate universe where everything was smaller, so perhaps they don’t actually count and I’m just using this to explain Fuzz’s whole deal.

”Noe’s on his way to the Baraam to sell his latest creation to the Minosian High Council.” The planet Minos was first seen in “The Arsenal of Freedom”. The people there had reputations as arms merchants, and they wiped themselves out with their own weapons, which the USS Drake investigated.

    • According to a display Garrett brings on, the Minosian Council was responsible for the destruction of the USS Stratford in 2314.

• When we see Quasi change his shape, he first becomes a mass of pseudopods. In “Star Trek: The Undiscovered Country”, Martia’s transition from one appearance to another was much smoother and quicker.

• Georgiou -- and San -- has a device called a phase pod, which allows her move a person or object out of phase with the rest of the universe, enabling whomever is phased to move through things. The effect is very similar to what accidentally happened to Geordi and Ro in “The Next Phase”, via transporter mishap. Unlike Geordi and Ro, Georgiou remains in phase enough that light still reflects off her.

    • Also similar to Geordi and Ro’s experience, Georgiou and San do not simply fall through the floor.

• The mostly nude Andorian is played by David Benjamin Tomlinson, who played Linus on DIS, as well as a variety of other characters.

• Dada Noe informs Alok and Georgiou that he was able to cross over from the mirror universe due to the intersection of two ion storms opening a rift. Ion storms played a part in: Kirk, Uhura, Scotty and McCoy being transported to the mirror universe in “Mirror Mirror”; and Mirror Lorca being transported to the prime universe, as per “Despite Yourself”.

• We learn that Alok was born in the 20th century, and fought in the Eugenics Wars against the augments before being captured and made an augment himself. As per SNW, we know that the Eugenics Wars didn’t begin until the early 21st century.

    • Alok says he slept most of the time between the Eugenics Wars and current day, after being exiled. In “Space Seed” the USS Enterprise located the SS Botany Bay, on which 84 augments were traveling in cryostasis.

• The bridge of the garbage scow is a redress of the bridge set of La Sirena.

”He played you, Emperor; San’s alive.” Georgiou was born in 2202, and in 2256, she experienced a six month time jump while being transported to the prime universe. Then, in 2257, she ended up accompanying Discovery to the 31st century, where she had a brief stay before the Guardian of Forever booted her back to the early 24th century, 2314 at the very earliest. Young San appeared to be the same age as young Georgiou, so, unless San used some form of stasis, or hopped around time a bit himself, he should be, roughly 112 years old, at minimum.

• San’s ship has Georgiou’s sword displayed.

“We’ll reign over this universe with righteous mercy, not like you!” Through the course of the film, we’ve had multiple characters state just how monstrous Georgiou was as emperor of the Terran Empire, and her killing her own family and building a weapon so horrific its engineers took their own lives certainly aren’t doing much for her perception here. However, in “What’s Past Is Prologue”, Lorca berated Georgiou for being weak on border security, and not doing enough to preserve the Terran way of life.

• Turkana IV is the colony where Tasha Yar grew up.

• It appears that the Baraam is not stationary, and is actually a warp capable ship in it’s own right. And it also has a significantly large fleet? And Alpha Team is going to take all the Baraam’s guests with them on their mission to the planet with the roving ”rape gangs.” Anyways, we’ve seen stations serve as ships before, specifically the 31st century Federation HQ was used as evacuation lifeboats in “Coming Home”.

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Various ticket packages are available (which mainly include access to the park itself). Tickets start at $74 (Sunday dates), $79 (Friday dates) and $84 (Saturday dates).

If you are interested in cosplaying, the website has a list of restrictions. The ones I noted that would apply to Trekkies are no phasers, no balloons (I saw a person with balloons at STLV), or service animals in costume/part of costume (I saw this too at STLV). So please read the list before dressing up.

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To be honest, I found it a bit pedestrian and the continuity geek in me is a bit annoyed with some bits.

Sigh. Okay, here we go.

The opening Star Trek Universe sequence features the old scow used in this movie as well as a mirrored version of the Star Trek logo, referencing Philippa Georgiou’s Mirror Universe origins and the plot’s connections to the MU.

Aeschlyus was a playwright of Ancient Greece often considered the father of tragedy. The full quote is actually, “The anvil of justice is planted firm, and fate who makes the sword does the forging in advance.”

The opening scene takes place in the Terran Empire, the Mirror Universe counterpart of the Federation, although exactly where (or when) is not specified.

San was first mentioned in the DIS novel Die Standing as a friend of the younger Giorgiou, and then subsequently seen in flashbacks in DIS’s third season. We know little about him except that Giorgiou saw herself standing over his body and she believed she was dead (DIS: “Terra Firma, Part 2”).

This version of Giorgiou’s rise to power, by participating in a Hunger Games-esque event and murdering her family, is different from the “official” version seen in DIS: “Terra Firma, Part 1”, where Giorgiou, as a peasant girl, is said to have driven back a Klingon invasion single-handedly. Why precisely the Empire chooses its Emperor like this I leave it for my fellow Daystrom researcher to ponder.

Control was the name of a rogue computer system used by Section 31 that attempted to gain sentience to destroy all organic life in the galaxy in DIS Season 2. It was destroyed in 2258, so the name was given to another Section 31 operative which served the same purpose.

The unredacted text reads:

PHILIPPA GEORGIOU

PRIORITY CLEARANCE REQUIRED

The subject is EMPEROR Philippa Georgiou, former ruler of the TERRAN EMPIRE She’s an established threat and tyrant with a vast history of calculated atrocities, against her people as well as others.

Located in a PARALLEL UNIVERSE with the highest criminal population in recorded history. After an unexpected event, thought to have been around circa 2257, Georgiou was brought to our universe. Starfleet lost contact after a short time with Section 31.

There’s some fragmentary text visible in the close-up, “Recently spotted using an alias”, “located outside federation space, where we are tracking”, “new black market threat.” Section 31 lost contact with Giorgiou because, like the rest of Discovery’s crew, she was transported to 3188 (DIS: “Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2”).

The starmap, like all starmaps from DIS on, is based on Geoffrey Mandel’s *Star Trek: Star Charts”, but with some alterations. One thing I spotted is the existence of a demilitarized zone around Chin’toka - but smaller than the one depicted in Star Charts which circa 2378 or so.

Georgiou’s location is near Hupyria (where the species of Maihar’du, Grand Nagus Zek’s servant, hails from). While not marked on the map, it is in proximity to Ferengi space as well.

The Treaty of Ka’Tann was negotiated the Vulcan ambassador V’Lar in the 21st or 22nd Century (ENT: “Fallen Hero”). This is the first time we have details of it forbidding Federation entry beyond the borders delineated by the treaty. Known states in that part of the Galaxy include the Talarian Republic, the Cardassian Union, the Tzenkethi Coalition, the Ferengi Alliance and the First Federation (TOS: “The Corbomite Maneuver”). As pointed out to me, this might explain why we never saw these species that much during the TOS era.

But that being said, we can see Starbase 17 (two of them, in different locations!), Starbase 25 and Deep Space 3 across the treaty line, and a few places Kirk and Pike’s Enterprise did visit, including Sarpeidon (which shouldn’t be there since it got blown up when its sun went nova in TOS: “All Our Yesterdays”), Gideon (TOS: “The Mark of Gideon”), Gamma Trianguli (TOS: “The Apple”), Galen (SNW: “Children of the Comet”) and Kiley (SNW: “Strange New Worlds”). There’s also Maxia, where Picard’s Stargazer was lost in 2355. So it’s all a bit of a muddle as far as production art is concerned.

The Stardate is 1292.4, at a space station called the Baraam. This is a TOS-style stardate, but back then stardates were pretty much random, and given the state of stardates these days, tells us absolutely nothing about when this is set

Virgil is a Cheronian (TOS: “Let That Be Your Last Battlefield”), specifically of the ruling half-white class (white on the left side), who hold the half-black class in contempt. Cheronians are extremely long lived (Bele was chasing Lokai for over 50,000 years), but were assumed to have been extinct since 2268, casualties of a civil war which wiped out Cheron’s population.

Quasi is a Chameloid, a shape shifter whose species first appeared in ST VI as a prisoner on Rura Penthe, a Klingon prison planet. Like the other Chameloid, his irises are amber and don’t change when he shape shifts.

Melle is a Deltan, a species known for their extreme sensuality which most other species find irresistible. Those serving (officially) in Starfleet have to take an oath of celibacy so as not to take advantage of sexually immature species.

Giorgiou suggests Vulcans never laugh, which is a generalization because it doesn’t take into account v’tosh ka’tur (Vulcans without logic, first appearing in ENT: “Fusion”), who eschew arie’mnu (passion’s mastery). She also suggests he lost his mind during pon farr, the Vulcan mating frenzy (TOS: “Amok Time”).

Rachel Garrett first appeared in TNG: “Yesterday’s Enterprise” as the Captain of the USS Enterprise-C, which was destroyed with few survivors during the Battle of Narendra III in 2344. Given that this is her younger counterpart, and that she appeared in her 40s in 2344, this would place the events of Section 31 in the mid 2320s, some 860 years in the past since Giorgiou entered the Guardian of Forever seeking redemption in DIS: “Terra Firma, Part 2”. Her presence on the team appears to be official, so that means Section 31 at this point in time is still operating as part of the Starfleet chain of command, unlike by 2374 (DS9: “Inquisition”).

Part of the reason Giorgiou did this was to stave off her impending death because of her separation both in time and universes between her rightful location in the Mirror Universe c. 2257. 2325-ish is still nearly 70 years separated from her rightful time, although that’s not as bad as 8.5 centuries and she’s obviously she’s dealing with it well.

“Where fun goes to die” is also the nickname given by the crew of Pike’s Enterprise to First Officer Una Chin-Riley and Security Chief La’an Noonien-Singh (SNW: “Spock Amok”).

Fuzz, a Nanokin (first species appearance), drives a Vulcan body much like the Teselecta in Doctor Who’s Series 6.

According to the readout, Minosians are a thriving, technologically advanced humanoid civilization allegedly from Minos Korva, and ruled by a High Council called the Minosian Sway. They also are arms merchants whose motto is “Peace Through Superior Firepower”.

Minos Korva is best known as a planet the Cardassians wanted to annex in 2369 (TNG: “Chain of Command, Part II”). However, production art in that episode suggested that the Class-M planet in that system was uninhabited when the USS Berlin surveyed it in 2343, and it was later annexed into Federation territory. The map seen here shows Minos Korva in proximity to Betazed, as it is in Star Charts.

Section 31, however, makes Minos Korva host to a thriving civilization of arms dealers, equating them with the Minosians of TNG: “The Arsenal of Freedom” (who had the same motto). Those Minosians were from the planet Minos in the Lorenze Cluster and were destroyed by the very weapons they were trying to hawk by 2364. So once again it’s a bit of a muddle.

Much like how Ro and Geordi somehow don’t fall through the floors of Enterprise in TNG: “The Next Phase”, Georgiou’s phase pod has the same effect despite her being otherwise out of phase.

San mentions that Giorgiou could have created something beautiful, which suggests this scene takes place before she was replaced by her future self in “Terra Firma, Part 1”.

Alok Sahar says he was born in the 20th Century and was alive during the Eugenics Wars. However, as we know now from SNW: “Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow” the Eugenics Wars no longer took place in the 1990s but in the 2020s instead thanks to time agent tampering. He was baseline human but augmented as a child much like Julian Bashir was (DS9: “Doctor Bashir, I Presume?”). Did I say muddle?

Georgiou’s titles, “Her most Imperial Majesty, Mother of the Fatherland, Overlord of Vulcan, Dominus of Qo’noS, Regina Andor, Philippa Georgie Augusus Iaponius Centarius”, were first mentioned in DIS: “Vaulting Ambition”.

An ion storm, a perennial hazard in Star Trek, was the cause of Kirk’s foray into the MU in TOS: “Mirror Mirror”, as well as part of the confluence of factors that caused the Narada to split off the Kelvin Timeline (ST 2009). An anomaly allowing passage between universes reminds me of the overarching plot of LD’s final season.

The Crescent Nebula doesn’t show up in Star Charts but does in this movie’s starmap. It is in the same approximate place as the Tong Beak Nebula (DS9: “Children of the Empire’).

The collapsing Terran Empire described by Mirror Dada Noe is consistent with the conquest of the Empire before 2370 by the Klingon-Cardassian Alliance of the MU (DS9: “Crossover”).

Terbium is 65 on the period table and first mentioned in TNG: “Manhunt”. The metal reacts with water, giving off hydrogen.

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal! But wait, if San died before 2257, how does he still look so young? LD comes to the rescue: since we saw during Season 5 that people from different time periods can enter through the portals. It’s possible that San just found a portal from 2257 (or thereabouts) to 2324 (or thereabouts).

Georgiou performs percussive maintenance on the scow to get it going, something Jankom Pog was fond of in PRO.

The lack of shields and weapons locks in a nebula is long established in Trek lore dating back to the Battle of the Mutara Nebula in ST II. Generally, one needs shields to be down to transport through them, although there are known workarounds (TNG: “The Wounded”).

Garrett identifies the toy as coming from a “Droom planet”. Coincidentally or not, Droomplanet is a learning platform from India for storytelling to kids. This is the first mention of Droom technology, terrenium or tomohite.

Control is portrayed by Jamie Lee Curtis, who co-starred with Michelle Yeoh in Everything Everywhere All At Once.

Turkana IV was the home planet of Tasha Yar, the first Security Chief of Picard’s Enterprise-D, who died in 2364 (TNG: “Skin of Evil”). While civil unrest and secession from the Federation would lead to chaos and Tasha escaping from the colony around 2353, that collapse wouldn’t start until around 2339.

If we’re going to take that last shot literally, Baraam is warp-capable. We wouldn’t see warp-capable space stations until the 32nd Century (Federation headquarters, the Pax-class USS Federation, in DIS: “Coming Home” ).

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Yeoh's full quote:

I mean, this is like a dream come true. You know, I've been wanting to do this for so long. Even before Star Trek: Discovery was launched, I sent to Alex Kurtzman and said, ”Got to do the spin-off, got to do the follow-up on Georgiou.” This is one of the most intriguing and sophisticated characters who isn't dark, in the light, you know? You never know she's coming or going, or whether she's gonna cut your legs off.

Edit: Clarify the quote

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Written by: Craig Sweeny

Story by: Bo Yeon Kim and Erika Lippoldt

Directed by: Olatunde Osunsanmi

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Interesting essay written by Greece's former finance minister and leftist economist.

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It looks like the embargo on Section 31 reviews has lifted, so feel free to use this thread to link to reviews, so the main feed doesn't get too cluttered with them.

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I didn't even know there was a premiere in London on Wednesday, but there we have it.

Highlights: the person who saw the movie described it as "fun," "silly," and "Guardians of the Galaxy meets Fifth Element meets Mission: Impossible".

There's also a full, recorded-from-the-audience Q&A with Michelle Yeoh and Robert Kazinsky.

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I’ve made a bizarre observation: commemorative plates tend to be associated more with Star Trek or Star Wars more than other franchise (Stargate seems to have some, too.), and I kind of wonder why.

Obviously, they’re not actually that popular anymore and have faded into kitsch, as the only plate that seems to have come out since DS9/VOY era is the Lower Decks Tom Paris plate - there are no DSC, PIC, Kelvin, or even ENT plates, while newer Star Wars plates don’t seem all that common as well unless you want paper plates.

I’m wondering if it has to do with 2 factors, still somewhat true today but especially in the 1990s:

  • Both Star Wars and Star Trek are decently large fan bases with large proportions of very passionate fans that are more likely to make purchases based on their fandom.
  • Both tended to attract (and still do) an upper middle class to upper class demographic (Somehow, Bezos can call himself Trekkie 🤦‍♂️) with more disposable income to spend on collecting.

These would have made the plates commercially viable, meaning to both inside and outside observers, plates became a stereotype of the fandoms.

Anyhow, what are your thoughts?

P.S. Wow, this is starting to feel like a meta version of Daystrom.

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A big disclaimer at the top here that I am going to be discussing familial death.

Hello to everyone reading this. Not sure why I am greeting you, the reader. Last week my maternal grandfather passed away. He was in hospice care with bone cancer and overall poor health. The lead up to being admitted into hospice was a sudden and unexpected turn. During my grandfather’s final days, my family set up a computer at the foot of his bed so we could watch shows with him. Regardless if he was awake or not I took time by his side and watched Enterprise. As an important side note, I have always lived with my grandparents (I’m Filipino; this is a cultural thing).

In the week since my grandfather’s passing, I have been rewatching Enterprise. When the show first broadcast in 2001, I was 10-years-old. I grew up watching TNG, seeing First Contact and Insurrection in theaters and going on The Klingon Encounter attraction at Star Trek: The Experience in Las Vegas. For me, my grandfather was the Star Trek fan who I looked up to. I watched it because he did. So when Enterprise premiered, it was the first series I was old enough to watch in completion during its first run broadcast. I remember my grandfather being excited for “Broken Bow”. He let me stay up late on Wednesdays (and later Fridays if I recall correctly, when the timeslot changed) to watch with him.

Getting to watch Enterprise at the age of 10 to 13 (“These Are the Voyages…” aired four days before my 14th birthday) had a big impact on me. I didn’t realize till later as an adult when I finally took the time to watch all of Classic Trek and then all of New Trek (circa November 2023) how much Star Trek meant to me. You’d be hard pressed to not find me wearing a badge on a daily basis. As a Southern California resident, I drove out to Beverly Hills to attend the advanced screening of the Discovery finale in May. Then in August I finally attended my first convention: STLV.

I am writing this as my way of being reflective. Watching Enterprise with my grandfather is one of the happiest memories from my childhood. I miss my grandfather so much. Each time I watch an Enterprise episode, I feel like a kid all over. This brings me joy during a time of grief. I intimately associate Enterprise with my grandfather.

Someday in the future I want to get a tattoo of the mission patch in honor of my grandfather.

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Okay, the title may be a bit of comedic overstatement. What I really mean is I love the Lower Decks soundtrack and think Westlake may have been meant for Star Trek. I don't know what it is, but it truly evokes TNG era background music but on steroids.

I can't wait for the second volume. RIP Lower Decks - may the next few years prove to be the "Search for Lower Decks" (minus the butchering of a good Vulcan character, the pointless death... okay, maybe that wasn't the most apt comparison).

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I have already seen everything Trek some more than once already. I always get a bit sad on the last few episodes of a series. I am going to miss the characters and seeing them continue to grow and interact with each other.

The same thing happened when I finished my rewatch of DS9. I think it hit my harder with DS9 since that those characters had such a good chemistry with each other.

Once I finish Voyagers I plan to start watching TNG right away. I havn't done a complete watch through of it for many years. I usually get the first 2 or 3 seasons before getting distracted. I have been looking forward to watching it again.

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