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I've found a lot saying switzerland, what about finland? Neither of those countries are in the 14 eyes.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Germany had most of the privacy laws before gdpr already, they just werent really enforcable for international companys. Also there was a ruling from the highest court in the 70s saying "you are your data". Which basically said that you have a right to have a say in what happens with your (personal) data and you can not give this right away. This doesn't seem to hold for data the government collects though, but thats the same in switzerland. Also both germany and switzerland happily collaborate with US-Intelligence :/

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Germans certainly were the people who freaked out the most when Google started photographing their streets and houses for Google Streetview

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 children)

And then nothing happened except some faces and license plates beung blurred :\

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 years ago (2 children)

have you tried using street view in Germany?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 years ago

No why? I saw them driving around in my town some months ago though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 years ago

I've tried it. Lots of houses are blurred, which is slightly annoying, but understandable for privacy concerns

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 years ago (2 children)

I hear that EU's GDPR is very good, but I'm a layman.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 years ago

The EU is not a country

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 years ago

Wbo EU Chatcontrol?! And EU is not a country

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 years ago

Europe is not a country, but the GDPR is pretty good. It gets enforced in Germany, France, Switzerland, Italy and many other countries in Europe quite effectively with high fines.

They also all have very invasive intelligence agencies, as @[email protected] already mentioned.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago (1 children)

good enough for the Durov brothers and they are pretty damned intelligent. But, are there tech companies located there - servers maybe? The Durovs do NOT have Telegram based there - which I found telling. I think Telegram is in Germany and in another country. And, would the server connection be fast enough? I am using a provider in Switzerland right now for Nextcloud and syncing is a problem (it could be from something else, though) and slowness because of distance may be the reason.