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why aren't the posts for each community replicated across instances? (lemmy.world)
submitted 2 years ago by LordShrek@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world
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i search for a community, over all instances connected to the instance i'm using or maybe at least the posts wouldn't be replicated, but there would only be one community, and when you visit it, posts for the community are downloaded from your primary instance, as well as other instances based on some configuration that makes sense.

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[–] zumi@lemmy.sdf.org 37 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Because those are all different communities with different moderators. Think of the "subreddit" name as the full name of the community AND server.

Likely what will happen is one of them will "win out" with amount of activity. But here is the good news. If the moderators get on a power trip or things go south, everyone just switches to another one.

[–] Nollij@lemmy.fmhy.ml 16 points 2 years ago

Since email is the common analogy, I would extend that to say that you could be John.Smith@gmail. You might also have John.Smith@outlook. Someone else has John.Smith@yahoo. If you wanted, you could setup a new account John.smith@protonmail, or start your own server and be me@JohnSmith.com

Communities are the same way.

[–] LordShrek@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

good point with being able to switch to another if a mod goes haywire. but i think that there just shouldn't be any mods -- or rather, the community members should moderate themselves via some algorithm that uses votes, discussion, etc. to hide/remove posts. you could choose to view a hidden post that has been downvoted a lot if you want.

[–] LordShrek@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

to clarify, "admin of an instance" is different from "moderator of a community".

[–] ImplyingImplications 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The idea behind a decentralized network is that is decentralized. Each of those "ask lemmy" communities is independently run from each other and can impose different rules and moderation. If you don't like how one community is being run, you can easily block it without missing much. With federation you can also easily subscribe to all of those communities to make them all seem bigger than what they really are.

What would be nice though is being able to make a custom feed of only your "ask lemmy" communities. That way you get a pseudo "centralized" feed of ask-lemmy-ness. Right now you'd need to jump from one to the next which is kind of a pain.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So the two solutions I'm seeing are either the Lemmy version of a "multireddit", or another bot that reposts things across instances lol

[–] Madbrad200@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lemmy desperately needs a multilemmy feature

[–] wjrii@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I feel like if you're okay with limiting it to communities with the exact same name, that this could be handled on the front end by app or web developers. I have seen some of the arguments about how it would be a lot of work for fairly little benefit on the back-end and I'm sympathetic, but "faking it" from a UI perspective shouldn't be too terribly difficult (said the non-coder).

[–] LordShrek@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

a lot of work for fairly little benefit on the back-end

i think enough people want the feature that the benefit would be worth it

limiting it to communities with the exact same name

you actually wouldn't have to limit it to exact same name if you're making a front-end thing, if you allow for the user to configure their "merged communities"

[–] lurkinggizmo@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think this is going to be the main bottleneck in the end. The principle of it might be great, but too many people won’t like this hurdle i’m afraid.

[–] GONADS125@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don't understand how this is a hurdle or a problem when it's brought up. I subscribe to both in this situation (already am with these two).

I do think it would be cool if communities across instances could essentially link their feeds. But I don't think that should be forced. Or maybe implement a user feature to group communities so you can click to see their combined feeds.

[–] lurkinggizmo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Just saying that 99% of users will not get this part of Lemmy. It will split all users across multiple communities where most will not even be aware of others.

I can be totally wrong, but this is my gut talking.

[–] LordShrek@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

communities across instances could essentially link their feeds

yes, that's pretty much what i'm saying. in the background, that is what would be happening, but on the frontend, the user just sees "communityname" and a bunch of posts that are pulled from all instances that have a community matching that name.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Because they're all technically different communities sharing the same name.

Not unlike how on Reddit you had r/gaming, r/games, r/videogames, etc. Only this time they can share the exact same name.

[–] LordShrek@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

correct. so let's have a way to "connect" communities, a way for any 2 communities on 2 different instances (or the same instance) to "merge" their content, even if they have different names (e.g. "games" "gaming"). now maybe this could be user-defined, a per client thing, like multireddits, but with a recommendation on each community page that shows the most frequent "client community-merge-configurations"

[–] morethanevil@lmy.mymte.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why are Mails @outlook.com not visible in @gmail.com? They could be replicated, since it is both mail...

Different servers, different Communitys. Federation makes it possible to see all of them. It would be cool to post in multiple Communitys at once. Like a CC in mail. That would be the right way imo

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

on that note i still need to figure out how to auto-forward my X emails to my Y email lol

[–] sep@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

SPF broke email forwarding, in order to give us 6 months without spam back in 2014.
Now you need to implement SRS to forward, but it is gennerally easier to pull email from X by Y

[–] beefbaby182@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Dang, I didn't realize we had passed !asklemmy@lemmy.ml in subscribers.

What have I done...

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