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Some interesting details about element.io / Matrix.org.

IMHO, there are of course worse alternatives, but people should really not recommend it over something like XMPP that works just as well and is also federated.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 years ago (1 children)

Intended hitpiece from people trying to get an alternate protocol to stick (via the CC0 attribution at the bottom).

I haven't read it in detail but even skimming through it's making some pretty questionable claims. "well, you have to join a public room, so it's not really public", and "they said their GDPR tools were 'hacky' which means they must not be good enough" and "a system administrator could configure STUN/TURN in such a way that IP metadata gets sent to Google"

I'd be very willing to believe Matrix had fucked some stuff up, leaked data, etc. but I don't see enough to buy the accusations of bad faith.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago)

Yeah good point. However, it is also true that the Matrix develpers have massively down-played such and similar issues.

Edit: and yeah, I don't think the Matrix developers are acting on bad faith. In fact the above article also claims the opposite: just no focus on privacy. And in addition I would say a lot of incompetence as well, looking at their code-quality otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 years ago (1 children)

Very interesting link, thanks for sharing. But its a year old and the matrix project is updating fast. Dit they change/improve on thare privacy?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago)

Unlikely, as they have down-played these issues in the past and focused more on adding superficial stuff to the UI.