Damn, Lemmy.ml upvoting Paul Joseph Watson? Horseshoe theory must be real. I used to watch that guy when I was pro-Trump and rightwing
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Something doesn't become wrong or disproven when it is said by someone I don't like.
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Something Something "Russia is an evil authoritarian regime and is destroying poor democratic Ukraine!"
Russia is literally attacking Ukraine.
the ability to live peacefully, without being invaded shouldn't be contingent on presence or absence of democracy either way 🤷♀️
When did I say they don't deserve the ability to live peacefully? I'm simply calling out the liberal narrative that one is definitely authoritarian and the other is definitely a democracy, and that this is a case of an authoritarian government specifically trying to destroy a democracy. Ukraine is hardly a democracy, contrary to popular belief.
ah, i see what you mean
my reply comment wasn't meant to run counter to your comment, rather, i meant to express that the the entire narrative of "attack on X is worse bc they're democratic" or "attack on Y is more justified bc they're less democratic" is absurd and cruel
That's precisely the situation Ukraine was in before the west decided they needed a color revolution and a government full of nazis.
edit: it's amazing how you can state plain facts and get downvoted. Before the war propaganda campaign started, western media has been openly reporting this. Here are just a few sources:
- https://web.archive.org/web/20220329174945/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtOx6dW_0vU
- https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/neo-nazis-far-right-ukraine/
- https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/01/19/ukraine-russia-nato-crisis-liberal-illusions/
- https://jacobinmag.com/2022/02/maidan-protests-neo-nazis-russia-nato-crimea
- https://www.internationalmagz.com/articles/conversation-with-dmitri-kovalevich
Did lemmy get full of fucking libs or what?
Western propaganda on Ukraine has been intense, and a lot of people are still parroting it.
Not to say that Russian propaganda is very much alive and repeated as well all the time.
Imagine thinking that Russian propaganda even remotely comparable impact to domestic propaganda on opinions held by westerners. Just really wild stuff here.
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Ah yes, the supposed final bastion of western liberal democratic values and civilization, making all political opposition illegal. At least they're up front about it, other countries do it more quietly in the background.
Does anyone have a link to the original Facebook post the article leads with? I have been looking, but also don't know Ukrainian so I wouldn't know if I missed it on non-English posts.
I would have to know why they did it, but if the party they banned is supporting Russian control of Ukraine while Russia is invading Ukraine and a war is actively going on, then yes obviously you have to fight not only the invaders but also anyone who helps them. Whether or not this is the real reason for the ban I don't know, because I don't know the details.
Those on here complaining about democracy, NATO, etc., should remember that Ukraine comes first above all else. When Ukraine itself is at stake, democracy or no democracy doesn't matter anymore.
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