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Free to read all you want in-house, but if you want to take some home, you gotta pony up for that card.

Fortunately the card was usually cheap.

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[–] [email protected] 103 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I've never paid for a library card in my life.

There's no way card fees or late fees could ever fund a library. I'm pretty sure those are just policies enacted by people who either don't understand or don't care.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The late fees are usually miniscule and they act as a deterrent to keep people from holding onto the same book for an extended period with zero repercussions.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The library card itself is mostly meant to make sure the people borrowing books are known for purposes of late fees etc. It's nothing else than an account registration, the only reason it sometimes costs money is because the library is meant to attract only a small specific area of a city (the others have their own libraries) but due to a lot of communter traffic they're worried about X-times the amount of estimated people getting books from this particular place.

So they make the cards cost a tiny amount (I think I paid €5 before) so that you won't just want to get a card from every single library in your city.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Some US libraries have a reprint fee if you lose it. But I have never seen a library that charges for the initial card.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

I am not sure what you are saying here.

And I don't know how stuff works in America, but where I live with most public offers like libraries, public pools, graveyards and stuff like that the amount that the user has to pay is almost never enough to completely fund that thing.

It is still good to demand a certain price, since that increases the appreciation of this public good, decreases wasteful or careless usage and obviously helps to lessen the necessary subsidies from taxpayer money.

I am pretty sure the people enacting those policies understand that perfectly well.

If you would demand so much money from library users to fund the whole library, then noone would use it and a valuable public good would be lost.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

I've never heard of a library card costing anything. But I guess I'm not really surprised if that happens somewhere.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago

I’ve also never paid for a library card and I live in the US, so it’s clearly not always America. In fact most commenters here are noting they are paying small fees in euros so it seems this trend is common in Europe more so.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

I have had like 6 or 7 library cards and they have never cost money

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

I have yet to see any kind of public library in America that charges for a library card, and I live in a red state.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Where I live, it's free for school children and people on welfare etc. For university students it's 5€ a year, for adults it's 10€.

So really not a lot, but you also get access to a lot of other online services for free (encyclopedia, streaming service for older and arthouse films, magazines etc.)

Late fees are just there to keep you from keeping a book or whatever for long periods of time, because then other wouldn't be able to read them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

My library charges 1€ initially to cover for the cost of the card, then it’s free to use no matter what income, age,…

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

the library where i live gives you 1 card for free, but you have to pay a dollar if you need to replace it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

when i was a kid, we lived on the 'wrong' side of a county line, and thus, in a different township than was part of the nearest (7 miles away) public library's "service area"... tax sources, jurisdictions, and all that jazz. it was outrageously expensive to get an 'out of area' library card.. at least that's what i was told. we never had one.

so our library was a tiny rural library that was housed in an old one-room school house. it was open only a few hours a day, a couple days a week; instead of the 7 days a week at the public library in town (an original carnegie library).

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 years ago

In my library the card was without charge, they just needed to know who had what book.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You pay taxes that pay for those libraries so....

[–] lazylion_ca 31 points 2 years ago

Money well spent.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

Back in the day, the library was much much more essential. It was the only access to advanced knowledge. I remember driving (riding) long distances to get to a better library for school projects when I was a kid. It was like the required Odyssey one did just to find an address to an outdated article that half mentioned what you needed but had no citations. It is hard to believe how isolated information was back 30 years ago. Big libraries were like a religious holy site of opportunity back then, choir, clouds parting, golden rays, Morgan Freeman, and all.