Also, the username is the name of a weapon used by Nazi Germany, which is quite suspicious on its on.
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Both Nazism as Communism brought misery to this world. It would be better if they never existed at all.
I don't think you can convincingly call him a Nazi.
username is the name of a weapon used by Nazi Germany
Weapons are used by different people throughout history. I'm sure the Nazis used knives as well, you shouldn't go calling everyone a Nazi who gives themselves weapon names.
ps pls don't ban me
Well, no one called him a Nazi. The problem is that it's a damn slippery slope, and an extremely unnecessary one at that, to compare Nazis to any group. Panzerfaust by himself wasn't the problem, the problem is that more extreme people will feel welcome, if that's the general tone of the discussion.
As for the name, again, by itself I wouldn't see it as problematic either. The word "Panzerfaust" is used in German for any type of shoulder-fired rocket launcher, but I also would expect more extreme people to understand it as a reference to Nazism and feel more welcome than they should.
This is what I think apologists just can't figure out.
So much of the transmission of nazism isn't outright. It's purposely put behind plausible deniability, it's done through signalling, it's done through co-opting, it's done through bad faith arguments about mod policy and free speech, it's done through half-jokes that aren't really jokes, it's done by 'just asking honest questions' that reinforce nazi framing etc.
And that in and of itself is enough to do the damage they want to do. Those who are rushing to the defense of these trolls are, for lack of a better term, just serving as useful idiots without realizing it.
The nazis and communists were both socailists. Maybe just maybe that is the real problem, the mass of "society" stepping on individuals for some grand believed "betterness".
Nah, they're definitely a nazi. The soviets paid the cost for a nazi-free world with unimaginable suffering, 26M people killed, nearly half of all soviet housing destroyed via a nazi scorched earth policy. They took on ~ 70% of nazi divisions, and killed / defeated that same amount. The tides were turned at Stalingrad, a full 2 years before the allies joined at normandy, and it was a slow, painful, and bloody march to Berlin. Any "both-sidesing" here is truly disgusting.
The eastern front in WW2 was the bloodiest, most brutal engagement in the history of warfare (if there are any WW2 buffs out there, this is a good docu series: Soviet Storm.
How is that relevant to the current discussion lol
If you criticize absolute monstrous failure that was soviet union that means you're a nazi? What moon logic is that?
LoL you have to beg to not be banned for expressing that^^ wtf is this place mao's forum?
Glad to see it wasn't only because of the name- because that can be complicated. There was a racist record label with that name, but there's also a non-racist Canadian metal band with that name... etc, etc.
So this place is about identity politics. I suppose because you are a bunch of leftists you ain't worth talking to because you'll just delete anything you don't like which is a lot!
Oh my god he used a suspicious word as his name, the grand fucking crime! /s/s/s/s/s/s/s/removed
At risk of getting banned I really don't like Lemmy's pushing of communism from the comfort of their 1st world capitalistic countries. I feel that it's good to discuss it and have the idea around but as a Lithuanian who had a lot of my ancestors straight up tortured, murdered and sent to Siberia by monsters that were Soviets, a communist is much worse than any nazi ever was relative to my experience. So in a way I completely agree with Panzerfaust's message here.
I really don't understand why every reddit clone has to be spear headed by blind extremists, I feel that the mods got a bit power-trippy with the recent success of Lemmy and I'm afraid this will be the end of Lemmy as it was with thousand other reddit clones.
Reading this thread alone paints a pretty bleak picture.