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I tried to sign in to Lemmy.ca with the account I created on the Lemmy.ml and it didn't work. Any reason for this? (I am very new to Lemmy and am still learning how to use/understand how all the instances work)

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago) (1 children)

You can think of Lemmy and federation like email. You can receive and read yahoo mail on your gmail account, but you obviously can't login to yahoo with your gmail account. Lemmy works the same way more or less except these "emails” (posts and comments and upvotes etc... ) aren't private but public. You can see and interact with lemmy.ca's posts from here on lemmy.ml by clicking on "all” as opposed to ”local” on the front-page. That's where the posts from lemmy.ca get ”pulled” to lemmy.ml, and if you comment the comment gets sent to lemmy.ca.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 years ago

This is the clearest explanation I have heard, thanks!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 years ago (1 children)

Lets say you like this community, and want to subscribe to it: https://lemmy.ca/c/canada

From this instance, go to the search bar and type [[email protected]](/c/[email protected])

Click subscribe.

Now you see and can interact with everything that gets posted to that community. No need to make 2 accounts.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 years ago (1 children)

I don't know if this has been discussed already, my apologies if it has, but I feel that specific search syntax for communities discovery isn't very noob friendly. I don't know if most people would know they have to do it in that email format, let alone they should add an exclamation point before it. Maybe either a small syntax notice should be added next to the search bar or maybe just have additional syntax in the form of ”[email protected]” and ”instance.tld/c/community” do the job as well? I'm aware this would return regular results as well (preferably below the community), but no harm in that as far as I can tell. If the search would add unnecessary load on the infrastructure just add a small prompt below the community ”Did you mean to search for ”instance.tld/c/community” in the content (posts and comments)? Click here." Certainly far more intuitive for new users. Just my 2 cents.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 years ago (1 children)

You can also enter the community url in the search box, and it will work. Same for post, comment and user URLs.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago) (1 children)

Oh, I see, the ”https://” part is necessary, I tried it without before and it didn't work.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 years ago (1 children)

Right, it has to be the full URL.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 years ago (1 children)

Makes sense. I guess I was subconsciously going off of how linking to just r/subreddit works on reddit. The URL version is sufficiently noob friendly tho, I think.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 years ago

We could also add support for that, feel free to open an issue.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago) (1 children)

You can follow communities, post, comment and vote submissions which belong to another linked instance (such as lemmy.ca) using your lemmy.ml account, so you don't need to create an account on lemmy.ca (you're still free to do it though). You can subscribe to other instances' communities (or simply browse their content) from Lemmy's search page

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 years ago

Good to know, I wasn't sure how to get to it, thank you!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago)

No, you don't need because of Federation. But there's instances that don't federates with us. For example: hystoria.100millionbooks.org, derpy.email, lemmy.cardina1.red. Even some instances that federates with us, may not federates with others we federate.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 years ago (1 children)

Just came to an interesting question: can I send a private message to an account from another instance?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 years ago (1 children)

Haha yes, that was possible since we first enabled federation here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 years ago (1 children)

@[email protected] also worth noting tho that private messages within a single instance, and between instances, aren't E2EE.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 years ago (1 children)

They aren't that private then, amirite.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 years ago

Amirite probably is a gem

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago)

Decentralisation level 1 (email-like): you have an account on a server, you're able to browse the content of other servers from your server.

Decentralisation level 2 (Internet Service Provider-like): you use your server or servers for access to any other servers, you can switch servers pretty much like when you go outside your phone switches from your home Wi-Fi to a mobile 3G/4G/5G network (and you don't notice such a switch).

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Decentralisation level X: no difference between clients and servers.

I think was meant in the post is maybe Decentralisation level 2 from the above.