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[–] [email protected] 130 points 2 years ago (2 children)

When humans went to a six day work week, the wealthy said it would end civilization.

When we went to a five day work week, they said the same.

Same as when we said overtime needs more pay, women should be paid more, 9 year olds can't work in coal mines, and basically every other labor law from the past 10,000 years.

Don't know why people still listen to them

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What do you mean? The world will END If us rich people get less of a % share of the pie! MORE SHARES OF THE PROFITS FOR THE FEW!!!!!1111oneone

^/s^

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

is man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? and the sweat of the brows he lords over as a neo-feudal capitalist?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

And we are more productive than ever due to automation. I bet 2 days would be enough to keep society running. Nothing fancy though. 3 would be enough for economic growth.

Anything more is just to make oligarchs richer.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Fox news is a garbage source of "news". Fox is a propaganda machine.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

that was the point, even Fox is discussing 4 day weeks, it will probably become more common where possible

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago

Oh and I am sure fox is discussing it in good faith and will come to the conclusion that actually, working less is better, because that's what republicans believe. Sure...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

It is the original fake news

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago

I will never give up my 3 on 4 off in the hospital. It's long sometimes but damn does 4 days off feel good.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

"Companies need to produce the same level of work, so they may need to hire and train more people. Would the tax breaks offered be enough to cover these extra expenses? This could cause businesses to really sweat."

It's funny how the criticism is basically "But this will create more jobs!"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I also can't help but notice how her personification of businesses (as things that can "really sweat") and empathy for them far exceeds the level at which she humanizes workers.

It's almost like "Mary Elizabeth Elkordy, founder of the remote-based company Elkordy Global Strategies," has a keen sense for which team she belongs to.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Then there is me, a professor, who works every day because students do homework on weekends and need help. I figure instead of a 4x10, I am doing a 7x5.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I hope you're not a professor of mathematics.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why, it is the others that don't know I'm working 5 hours less...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Oh, never mind then LOL

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

It's gonna be middle managers and owners criticizing. The former because they add no value, the latter because... oh they add no value either, but they also profit off our work. But they're afraid their lack of value adding will be discovered.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

Fuck those piece of shit critics!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can't even work from home right now. These things won't happen anytime in the near future.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

it's entirely job dependent, a grocery store worker can't just decide they will not work one of the days anymore because the store needs to be open. but they work in shifts and different days already.

There will also be white collar jobs that can't just move to a different schedule, like support needs to be everyday regardless.

and if you are a software engineer there is a good chance you are already working remote and if you are good enough you are only working the days you want to.